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Old 09-17-2017   #121
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His views on film were sometime surprising. Ramsey Campbell said he preferred Night of the Living Dead to the more subtle The Leopard Man...
That makes sense to me. NOTLD is a great horror movie, one of the best, and The Leopard Man would only seem pretty, well, tame beside it. And I figure that Aickman is a sharp enough critic not to let any squeamishness on his part interfere with his judgment.

I am very surprised to hear that he hated Don't Look Now, though. Stunned. Shocked and dismayed, even. I'd have thought they were a match made in heaven.

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I am very surprised to hear that he hated Don't Look Now, though. Stunned. Shocked and dismayed, even. I'd have thought they were a match made in heaven.
He loathed the sex scene in particular, but also Donald Sutherland's accent and the way Roeg used Venice, among other things. Other detestations included the magazine Private Eye, Tippett's Midsummer Marriage and the film Sleuth.
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I am very surprised to hear that he hated Don't Look Now, though. Stunned. Shocked and dismayed, even. I'd have thought they were a match made in heaven.
He loathed the sex scene in particular, but also Donald Sutherland's accent and the way Roeg used Venice, among other things. Other detestations included the magazine Private Eye, Tippett's Midsummer Marriage and the film Sleuth.
I love Tippett, but also loathe Midsummer Marriage.
Hate is eclectic.

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I find it delightful that Aickman's taste in films was so different from what many readers expected. It just reminds us of the complexity of a real human being. It's not the Politically Correct Equation where one trivial action or belief that harms no one, defines a man as a saint or sinner. In stone. Forever.

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Re: Aickman's Philosophy

I wouldn't say Night of the Living Dead was less subtle than The Leopard Man. Just more graphic. I don't think The Leopard Man was as subtle as the same director's Cat People or I Walked with a Zombie

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There are times when i read Aickman and think he is less subtle than he's often portrayed as being. Don't see why we should associate him with 'subtlety,' really.

Of course there are degrees of subtlety, and after passing each degree the previous one will look coarser than the current one.

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Re: Aickman's Philosophy

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He loathed the sex scene in particular, but also Donald Sutherland's accent and the way Roeg used Venice, among other things. Other detestations included the magazine Private Eye, Tippett's Midsummer Marriage and the film Sleuth.
Now Sleuth I can understand, though it probably plays a little better today. Just seeing the likes of Caine and Olivier sharing screen time is a more appealing prospect than anything in contemporary cinema. God knows what he would have made of the remake.

It's still hard for me to fathom his feelings for Don't Look Now, though. Maybe he thought it disrespectful to Du Maurier's story (though I feel it enhances the tale significantly, and lends a gloominess and uncanny images that altogether feel very ""Aickman"). Or perhaps the movie affected him so deeply he found it uncomfortable to admit it, the contrary old sod. (Just kidding, RA, we love ya, man.)

Of course, I shouldn't really be surprised if his abhorrences were as eclectic as his interests.

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Leopard Man is the weakest on those Lewton box sets. Bad script.

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There are times when i read Aickman and think he is less subtle than he's often portrayed as being. Don't see why we should associate him with 'subtlety,' really.-- Ibrahim

I think Aickman and de la Mare are two of the most subtle practitioners in the history of Weird Fiction. I think that's evident in most of their stories. Some might even argue "too subtle!" at times LOL
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Re: Aickman's Philosophy

Aickman was a master of the grotesque. He could be subtle, but he also had his strong baroque flourishes of accentuated reality. His stories are fully rounded portrayals of the human experience.

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