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Old 10-04-2016   #31
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If people legit can't see the open racism in many of Strength's posts on eugenics, fine. I have no idea how you could miss it, but fine. Nothing I can possibly say will illuminate anything if a guy outright saying there are important racial differences that mean some cannot fit in with civilisation is seen as not racist. There's being an oversensitive SJW by throwing a hissy fit when somebody criticises Islam, and there's being a rational human being when somebody drearily bangs on about racialist science and how there is no such thing as a decent Muslim non-stop.

These things I'm saying aren't strawman hyperbole. They're exactly what he has said. Many, many times.
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Problem here is that Westerners, that is white westerners in particular, have absolutely no moral right to criticise Islam or Muslims in certain ways.

And the element of racism is certainly extant, given that such attacks often come from white westerners and are aimed at brown-skinned or black Muslims. Element of nationalism is even more obvious.
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Really, Hidden One? I guess we were insensitive when we came down on Nazis then. No one has the "moral right" to criticize anything, right? It's all relative.

What a crock. The suffering of the women described in Strength's post is just a joke to some. Don't raise your voices, social justice warriors.

The negative things in Islam are not imprinted in brown or black skins.
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You should read Nicole Cushing's The Sadist's Bible if you want a good modern horror piece with a strong theological bent. Mark Samuels' The Grandmaster's Final Game and Reggie Oliver's Rapture are good also – even if the latter tale is sceptical.
Oliver's "The Dreams of Cardinal Vittorini", "Seventeenth Sister", "Among The Tombs" all deal with the subject in a non-sceptic manner. I wouldn't be surprised if he did even more stories in that mode, ones I'm either forgetting right now or ones that come from one of his collection that i still haven't read.
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What a crock. The suffering of the women described in Strength's post is just a joke to some. Don't raise your voices, social justice warriors.
I'm pro-free speech. I want these ideas to be out there to criticise. I just don't see the point in turning a blind eye when one guy is so obviously a massive racist loon who has said it'd be positive to deservedly degrade Muslim women and that some races are superior to others. I don't get what it achieves to just pretend he's talking sense because his ideology broadly fits in with yours.

This exact user said we should degrade Muslim women wearing their religious garb in order to bully them out of our society, then suddenly he's righteous about women's rights? No, it's more nonsense.
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Strength is one of the most knowledgeable and honest posters here. I don't believe for one minute he's a racist unless all whites by their designated skin color are racists.

I'm sure some believe that.
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Problem here is that Westerners, that is white westerners in particular, have absolutely no moral right to criticise Islam or Muslims in certain ways.
What criticisms are off-limits to white Westerners?
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Strength is one of the most knowledgeable and honest posters here. I don't believe for one minute he's a racist unless all whites by their designated skin color are racists.

I'm sure some believe that.
I don't think Burn is a massive racist because of his skin colour. I think he's a massive racist because of all the patently racist stuff he has said over the last few months. That it's seen as some crazy leftist SJW conspiracy to react to somebody saying they think certain races are superior to others with an accusation of racism is preposterous. What more does he have to say, exactly?

I'm not saying he should leave the forum or be banned or anything, but it's eye roll worthy to be called an SJW when I call him out for saying some of the most bat#### racist stuff I have seen posted on any forum by a non-joke account. I legit can't believe that Breivik conversation even happened.
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Attempting to steer this thread back on course, I'm very intrigued by the implications raised by Antichrist.
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No conspiracy theories here, James. Not unless apathy and willful blindness fall under that definition.
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