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Old 03-13-2017   #71
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Re: Are you a good person?

No, I'm not. But at least I'm aware of the fact. Everyone is bad. You're either self-conscious of the fact or you're not.

"In a less scientific age, he would have been a devil-worshipper, a partaker in the abominations of the Black Mass; or would have given himself to the study and practice of sorcery. His was a religious soul that had failed to find good in the scheme of things; and lacking it, was impelled to make of evil itself an object of secret reverence."

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Re: Are you a good person?

Actually, I think most people are surprisingly decent human beings, esp. when you consider the amount of suffering in even the 'average' life.

I've been on the receiving end of too many acts of kindness to be a total cynic. Women, in particular, have treated me well, probably far better than I deserved. I'll never fully understand why but I'm grateful for it.

Hey, Ben! You started this thread so what about you? Are you on the side of the Angels, Sir?

I don't think we're necessarily talking about saints here; but just the kind of human being who, if they see someone's fallen, will give them a helping hand and not a kick in the side.

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Re: Are you a good person?

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No, I'm not. But at least I'm aware of the fact. Everyone is bad. You're either self-conscious of the fact or you're not.
I mean, wouldn't it be a more accurate to say everyone is neither good nor bad in a naturalist worldview?

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Re: Are you a good person?

I hope this helps give some illustrative depth to that point while also being appropriate to the thread generally:


"As the Director of one of the five greatest museums in our Eastern States has more than once remarked to me, From the Stone Age until now, what a decline!" - Ananda Coomaraswamy
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Re: Are you a good person?

I think intelligent naturalists truly concerned with what is good will always be in torment, escape that torment through distractions, or buckle down by becoming religious.

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Re: Are you a good person?

"I hate mankind, for I think myself as one of the best of them, and I know bad I am." - Samuel Johnson

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