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Old 03-03-2017   #41
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Re: (Why) Have we stopped reading fiction ?

Just read.

The rest of the world can go scratch.

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Re: (Why) Have we stopped reading fiction ?

I genuinely cringed at the knowledge that I posted in this thread 7 years ago. 7 years ago. Anyway, I still contend that there is nothing more important than the imagination. It's my refuge, my source of creation and my mediator between the confusion of the world and what could actually be possible within it. I admit that sometimes everyday life draws me away from creative thought and into utilitarian modes of boring, banal being, but I always come back to the imaginative creativity of my mind, and the ties that bond it all back to the cryptic deciphering of my present state of mind and what I consider reality. My imagination is the only thing that has kept me alive for 34 years and Ligotti, among many others, contributes to my ongoing existence that I ultimately consider pointless, but paradoxically meaningful. Maybe i'll off myself tomorrow. I'm cool with whatever, as long as I can dream and imagine.
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Personally, none of my friend reads frequently and it's sometime embarrassing for me to be seen as a 'reader'. I don't want to explain what The Trouble with Being Born is all about and be labeled an 'intellectual'. Carrying around fictional book can also be troubling, as the other day a friend asked if I was doing my 'luxurious reading' again.
But why is it embarrassing for you?

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@Robert Adam Gilmour: I act naive, clownish and graceless with my friends and we enjoy our common rustic personality. Being seen as a reader is embarrassing because it's what sophisticated people do.

"So in the end it remains advisable to accept whatever comes, to behave like an inert mass even if one feels oneself being swept away, not to be lured into a single unneccesary step, to regard others with the gaze of an animal, to feel no remorse, in short to crush with one's own hand any ghost of life that subsists, that is, to intensify the final quiet of the grave still further and let nothing beyond that endure." ---Franz Kafka, Resolutions
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@Robert Adam Gilmour: I act naive, clownish and graceless with my friends and we enjoy our common rustic personality. Being seen as a reader is embarrassing because it's what sophisticated people do.
Maybe you need some better friends? Perhaps your reading indicates that you've grown beyond your old gang and need to find some folks who are into reading to more accurately reflect your present state of being.

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@Robert Adam Gilmour: I act naive, clownish and graceless with my friends and we enjoy our common rustic personality. Being seen as a reader is embarrassing because it's what sophisticated people do.
You don't want to be seen as sophisticated? Intellectuals are often the best clowns.

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@Robert Adam Gilmour: I don't know any intellectual clown except Zizek, and he's a rare case. I think you're referring to the witty intellectual. A clown degrades himself, blurts out crass jokes, acts ridiculous...things which no intellectual would do.

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I was thinking more of absurdists and surrealists who are smart but also very silly.

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Personally, none of my friend reads frequently and it's sometime embarrassing for me to be seen as a 'reader'. I don't want to explain what The Trouble with Being Born is all about and be labeled an 'intellectual'. Carrying around fictional book can also be troubling, as the other day a friend asked if I was doing my 'luxurious reading' again.
I can sympathize. I usually don't discuss the futility of all things with most of my acquaintances. It's quite rude to do so under most circumstances. We all have to hide ourselves from time to time. I can't explain to my colleagues that procreation is morally wrong, even though I went into the teaching profession.

I certainly would never recommend my favorite books to them. If someone is an "intellectual," it's a sign that something went "wrong." Sex and potato chips are the norm.

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Re: (Why) Have we stopped reading fiction ?

@Robert Adam Gilmour: I understand your point, but I'm not sure anyone would call the Marx Brothers clowns. Absurdist and surrealist act silly in order to question reality. A clown acts silly for the sake of being funny.


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