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Old 05-12-2017   #51
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Re: Aickman's Philosophy

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In my opinion, Panacea is a disaster of a book.
Well that should squash any hopes of it being the next Aickman Tartarus publication :-)
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Re: Aickman's Philosophy

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So a knowledge of history is wrong and pointing out that mindless labels (conservative equals racist) is, well, mindless...that too is wrong? Your smug answer is designed to shut down debate but, fear not, I have no intention of entering into such a non-productive waste of time.

For some, inconvenient facts that imply life is less simple than one would like are to be deemed "Irrelevant" or simply ignored. Sorry. Life is more complex than that.
Conservatism and racism tend to go hand in hand. Are you really arguing that someone who is strongly against racism, nation or religion based hatred and segregation, sexism etc... is equally likely to identify as a liberal as he is likely to identify as a conservative?
Or, instead of deciding what to believe by social correlation, we can actually use a process of reasoning.

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Re: Aickman's Philosophy

Aickman's philosophy was also mentioned in this thread:

http://www.ligotti.net/showthread.php?t=11135

It contains, early on, the following quote from Aickman's award-acceptance speech:

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I believe that at the time of the Industrial and French revolutions (I am not commenting upon the American one!) mankind took a wrong turning. The beliefs that one day, by application of reason and the scientific method, everything will be known, and every problem and unhappiness solved, seem to me to have led to a situation where, first, we are in imminent danger of destroying the whole world, either with a loud report or by insatiable overconsumption and overbreeding, and where, second, everyone suffers from an existential angst, previously confined to the very few.

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Re: Aickman's Philosophy

Aickbon is a good writer; I could have done without the whole greyhound custard thing though. It's not strictly necessary to be in agreement with writers about politics or philosophy, but sometimes the animal cruelty can be a bit much to take on board. No one could argue that those dogs weren't already "filled up" in every sense, and Robert's behavior here was...idiosyncratic at bet, and downright criminal at worst. I still enjoy his books though.
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Re: Aickman's Philosophy

I don't believe in the supernatural; and yet I have had a couple of supernatural experiences.

How do I square this? I guess just by appreciating the fact that as human beings we are often self-contradictory, inconsistent, uncertain, bewildered, and the 'truths' we utter about ourselves and our beliefs are often inaccurate, misleading, vague or subject to adjustment, revision and even complete overhaul. We often don't know what we believe, and what we claim to believe isn't always what we really believe, even if we think it is.

Be wary of accepting at face value what people say about themselves when they claim to be rationalists or believers or whatever. As Nuruddin Farah once said, "Never trust a self definer."

There are times when we can hold two or more opposing viewpoints at the same time and not feel any cognitive dissonance as a consequence. This is because our identities are not the integrated single units that we sometimes picture them to be, but consist of a hive of aspects that sometimes work together and sometimes don't. I can believe in ghosts with one part of my mind and dismiss them with another.

I don't believe in the supernatural but I have seen a ghost.

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Re: Aickman's Philosophy

I'm curious as to why Aickman believing in the supernatural would be an issue in the first place? I could understand disappointment, shock, or maybe some resentment if he was a religious fanatic, but belief in ghosts is pretty much harmless whereas holistic medicine at its worst is on par with countless other poor health choices.
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Re: Aickman's Philosophy

Yeah, I don't know how someone can connect something like that to either conservatism or liberalism. Also, belief in the supernatural doesn't at all indicate that someone is traditionally religious or anti-science in the slightest way. TLO's own Mat Cardin is certainly neither, for example.
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Re: Aickman's Philosophy

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I'm curious as to why Aickman believing in the supernatural would be an issue in the first place?
It came up because Aickman was described as a Rationalist--a term not usually applied to people who have a firm belief in something that cannot be proved.

It is additionally interesting because the majority of celebrated writers working in the genre have tended not to believe in the supernatural.
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Re: Aickman's Philosophy

What is the "greyhound custard" Justin refers to above in relation to animal cruelty? Apologies if I missed it earlier in the thread.
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Re: Aickman's Philosophy

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What is the "greyhound custard" Justin refers to above in relation to animal cruelty? Apologies if I missed it earlier in the thread.
Pretty sordid incident in Aickman's life involving greyhounds, custard and a bicycle pump. Not strictly related to his spiritual/philosophical views though, so only of tangential relevance to this thread. In general though, I agree with Rhys's thoughts - what people define themselves as isn't always what they actually are.
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