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Old 06-26-2007   #21
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Re: Thomas Ligotti birth hour

Great topic! For those interested in learning more about astrology I would highly recommend the book Cosmos and Psyche by Richard Tarnas.

From the book,

"Based on thirty years of research , Cosmos and Psyche is the first book by a widely respected scholar to demonstrate the existence of a direct connection between planetary movements and the archetypal patterns of human experience."

For those of you not familiar with Richard Tarnas, he also wrote the bestseller The Passion of the Western Mind. It's regarded as one of the finest histories of Western culture, and required reading at many universities.

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Thanks, Darrick! Seems to go well with me.

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Re: Thomas Ligotti birth hour

Here is Ligotti's natal chart. I don't know the time he was born, so I used a general/default time of 12:00 noon. While it may be imprecise without an accurate birth time, it does give a one a general idea.


Tom's formation is called a "Bowl" formation.
"All the planets are gathered within a hemisphere, or bowl, i.e. 180 degrees, or a wide half of the circle (up to a maximum of 190 degrees).

Which such a pattern, relatively frequently found, the native usually has very characteristic and marked features, and he is deeply aware of his assets. The concentration of planets in a single hemisphere, or a half of the chart, may yield an abundance of energy, although less than that provided by the bundle or wedge pattern. Nevertheless, there is an acute awareness that the other half of the bowl is missing.

Most often, the native wants to make up for this lack, symbolized by the central part of the void (the empty part of the bowl opposite the tenanted part). "

More info here: http://www.astrotheme.com/files/planetary-patterns.php

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Re: Thomas Ligotti birth hour

Want me to find out the time of his birth?

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Re: Thomas Ligotti birth hour

All I can say about synchronicity (three years later) is: "See how everything still fits together?" and .

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Tibet: Carnivals?
Ligotti: Ceremonies for initiating children into the cult of the sinister.
Tibet: Gas stations?
Ligotti: Nothing to say about gas stations as such, although I've always responded to the smell of gasoline as if it were a kind of perfume.
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Re: Thomas Ligotti birth hour

You people need to stop doing whatever it is you are doing and start doing cocaine instead.
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Re: Thomas Ligotti birth hour

Quote Originally Posted by Ascrobius View Post
Want me to find out the time of his birth?
That would be great! Please do!

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Re: Thomas Ligotti birth hour

I used to do Natal charts in the Seventies like that.

Mine is amazing!
Saturn and Pluto close to the Ascendant degree etc etc.
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Re: Thomas Ligotti birth hour

I asked Tom and he said that every so often, someone asks him (probably for similar reasons), but he doesn't remember what the time actually is. He's going to get back to me on that one.

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Re: Thomas Ligotti birth hour

Not so interesting as TL's data, but mine is 18 January 1948, 5.40 pm - Essex, England. You need all that sort of data.

My resultant chart has been haunting me since I first erected it in 1975.
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