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Old 08-09-2016   #21
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Re: A Pilgrim Stranger

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Re: A Pilgrim Stranger

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He's not even close to Vox Day, or the Catholic John C Wright. Not even David A Riley comes close to Day's extreme conservatism.
Vox Day is by his own admission decidedly not a conservative, he's a a racial Nationalist Libertarian with overtly eugenicist views (God, sometimes I just wish I could throttle the men who wrote The Bell Curve) coupled with some kind of bullying pickup artist Game Theory bit of his own creation.

Wright is a more accurate picture of a hardline Catholic conservative. I used to enjoy his blog entries for the non-materialist, space positivist stance on modern sci fi but after he posted an entry attacking the notion of rape laws within marriage even I found him too queasy. His continued passive endorsement of Day is odd too - that eugenics, IQ, sexual success view of persons that latter put forward strikes me as far closer to scientific materialism.
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I stand behind my words. I find much of what I have read on his blog to be reprehensible. I tried to engage him more than once, but my comments were never once approved on his blog, so I gave up on that. I also find it impossible to hold any respect for a man that often, and with evident glee, attacks views of the person who is the sole reason for his "fame".

I'm done reading his work, and I am immensely sorry for every cent of mine that went to person that is capable of holding such views in this day and age.

That is all I have to say on this subject. I don't feel like arguing with a dozen or so old timers on a forum where I've just registered. Suffice it to say that I obviously misjudged some members whose posts I've read during the time I have spent lurking around here.
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Re: A Pilgrim Stranger

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His views on Marx and socialism strike me as spectacularly ill-informed, but Robert Aickman had the same views. Doesn't stop Aickman being my favourite writer and Samuels probably being in my top ten modern (Ramsey Campbell onward) weird writers.
I can't speak for Mark here but from the conversations we've had the objection the both of us have is not so much to Socialism as a form of government (we both approve Labour Welfare Socialism) but the tendency of many socialists e.g. Marx, to claim that all forms of human intellectual activity e.g. all aesthetics, all philosophy, all religion et cera, is really a form of covert political activity. Indeed the inversion of priority that puts politics before ethics is a persistent target of our criticism.

Even if one does not concur with more metaphysical side of Mark's work one might still appreciate the criticisms of consumerism and excessive consumption a la Ballard or Huxley.
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Re: A Pilgrim Stranger

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I find Mark's descent into superstition fascinating. I think he recounted that his psychotic break from reality happened in his late 20s. I am a fan of his fiction. Not so much of what he considers non-fiction. But I might read it.
Bendk, give it a rest. You've been coming out with that same wheezing, contentless* pejorative atheist grievance mongering for over five years. Not only is it of almost zero information value (you have yet to display any knowledge of what you criticize nor even any articulate criticism) but it doesn't appear to be in the aid of anything either - at least with Sundog or Dimasokal sic they were clearly defending Radical Efilism.

*Your comments here and elsewhere express little beyond personal emotive reaction. A lot of them could easily be re-written in the aid of any view. There are clearly plenty of atheists and non-Christians here who posses the intellectual maturity to discuss Catholics and works of fiction which contain Catholic ideas without descending into pejorative nonsense; I suggest you join them or face the troll hammer.


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Re: A Pilgrim Stranger

My opposition to materialism is one of the main reasons I love Aickman and Machen. It's also, on some level, why I dislike the Cthulhu Mythos.

I just don't see how you get from opposing materialist dogma to accepting Jesus Christ as your personal saviour, the pope as an authority, etc. I'm not going to consider somebody mentally ill for believing that stuff, mind. I have psychotic episodes, and I sure don't. I consider Christianity and capitalism delusions, but they're the default view in western society. Mental illness implies some sort of aberration.

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Re: A Pilgrim Stranger

It is possible that evolution is creating a new breed that can exist without any religious impulse. But the religious impulse has always been universal, and probably for a very good reason. Is this theoretical modification a good or bad thing? It's called survival of the fit--not fittest, as my old biology teacher used to point out. Maybe McCarthy is right and there will soon be a new breed of monster walking among us. Maybe we've a;ready see it's face. Evolution has always been in fits and starts.
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I reckon evolution works too slowly for us to be seeing the effects of that now. It's likely that our need to have idols of worship has been supplanted by celebrity culture. I think this is why I feel spiritual awe with my favourite Korean pop girl groups.

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Re: A Pilgrim Stranger

Cro-Magnon man ate Neanderthal out of existence apparently--Gad, we are wonderful creatures!--and I wonder what will eat us and will we even see it coming?
No wonder we love pork so. It's as as close to long pig as possible without breaking the Law.
Heck with this, back to my Martin and more delicate Celtic airs.
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