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The William Hope Hodgson thread
And Lo! The Prodigious Hodgson thread!
He's the first writer I ever fell in love with. william hope hodgson | A blog about the writer of THE NIGHT LAND and HOUSE ON THE BORDERLAND The Night Land - Home Here's what I said on the Lovecraft/Octavia Butler thread The complete poetry book isn't coming out because of a lack of interest. I've just read the four main novels but I've got all the Night Shade collections, Lost Poetry, Voice Of The Ocean and the Wandering Soul biography. Aside from a few poems, I think that's everything. James on the Lovecraft tribute anthologies thread in which I mentioned the 2 Night Land tribute anthologies and a Carnacki one. | |||||||||||
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Re: The William Hope Hodgson thread
I've heard some say that Dream Of X keeps everything good about The Night Land but I've also heard that it's an incredibly clumsy abridgement that just chops out whole sections of the book without any real editing.
It might be a bit too wishlisty to ask for more monsters, but I brought a lot of hopes to The Night Land because the concept sounded so impressive. But actually the main feature I wish it had more of was darkness. Sure, there is a never-ending night and there are portions where he is in complete darkness but for the majority of the book he can see quite clearly. I thought it'd be much better if he was in total darkness for more of the duration and struggled to see most of his attackers. A lot of people don't like the latter half of House On The Borderland but I think those are the most intense parts. Boats Of Glen Carrig on the other hand has a disastrous second half. A surprising amount of music has been based on his work. Hodgsonian vibrations Recently Ahab did an album called Boats Of Glen Carrig. | |||||||||||
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The Night Land uses darkness and light in an interesting way early on in the book, such as when he must use his Diskos for light whilst climbing a declivity. It is portrayed as momentous and beautiful that the narrator encounters such strange light in the first (!) Gorge, and this extends to the prodigious amount of fire-hole light he encounters in the Country of the Sea. It is a shame that after that the book ceases to use darkness/light in an interesting way.
My biggest disappointment with The Night Land was how the way back home was pretty uninteresting compared to the way there, yet was so protracted. I think when I next read through this flawed jewel I shall skim many parts of the second half. Discovering the strange alien landscape was much more interesting than backtracking through it whilst kissing and giggling and whipping a lot. There is so much wrong with The Night Land, but when it gets things right it is peerless and infinitely evocative. The image of the Watchers towering among the shadows, fixedly gazing at the Pyramid in their inexorable approach is unforgettable dream fuel and the weird enigmatic tid bits such as the Great Laughter and House of Silence are true horror. It is an incredible piece of work, for its countless flaws and tedious longueurs. I can't stop obsessing over it. |
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Re: The William Hope Hodgson thread
About time! I often considered beginning a thread to Hodgson myself, but did not. I still think Hodgson, along with even Blackwood, is somewhat underrated. I have said this before, but Hodgson was the Lovecraft of the Edwardian era: the cosmicism of Machen and Blackwood was often nullified by their optimistic mysticism, whereas Hodgson, whose weird vision was similar to the other two, eschewed mysticism and embraced science, thereby spawning a type of cosmic (astronomical) horror that truly found despair in the thought that the Earth and its inhabitants are but transient specks of dust in a vast and boundless cosmos (though Hodgson was prone, as Lovecraft remarked, to thinking the universe as actively evil, as opposed to fundamentally indifferent).
As you all know, I am a profound enthusiast of The House on the Borderland, and will go to the grave defending this as a work of art. So many ideas and images condensed into one novel -- the cosmological vistas of H.G. Wells and Olaf Stapledon are wedded with the supernatural terror of Machen, Lovecraft, and Poe in a potent mix that even today still remains unrivalled in sheer creativity without degenerating into standard Tolkien-esque phantasy. It is set to be reprinted by Dublin's Swan River Press in the foreseeable future -- with illustrations by John Coulthart!!!! | |||||||||||
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Which are his best short stories? I have only read The Voice in the Night and would like to read some Carnacki tales. I heard his short stories are more conventional and accessible, so I was less intrigued by the idea of them than his hypnotic, unique novels.
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Thanks, I'll check them out when I have finished rereading the backtracking through the Upper Gorge from The Night Land, with the shadowed, oppressive, seemingly mountain-lidded (!) valley stretching on and on, whilst the protagonists are haunted by the hints of fire-lit slug creatures. Very eerie.
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Re: The William Hope Hodgson thread
Try "The Derelict" "The Call in the Dawn" "The Wild Man of the Sea" "The Stone Ship". You'll be surprised at how good they are.
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Re: The William Hope Hodgson thread
I once had a weird experience with Hodgson. I was reading The House on the Borderland while traveling with friends to a local comicon.It was my first ever comicon. I went to the first comic book booth I could get to and eyed a box of graphic novels. Sticking my hand in at random, I pulled out The House on the Borderland graphic novel, adapted by Richard Corben and Simon Revelstroke, with an introduction by Alan Moore, while the actual source rested in my backpack. I bought it immediately.
The graphic novel is average in my opinion, but Alan Moor's intro is great. Here is a teaser: "It is no easy matter to describe this work, the aura and charisma that surrounds it, evident before the book is even opened. The mad whirl- pool of fantastic imagery and wild, apocalyptic notions it contains. The aftertaste it leaves upon the mind, like that of flaming and primordial- vintage brandy." | |||||||||||
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Re: The William Hope Hodgson thread
This is an important piece about Hogson's likely progression as a writer.
Writing Backwards: The Novels of William Hope Hodgson | william hope hodgson Perhaps if he'd lived longer he could have written unrestrained fantasy that he seemed to prefer. | |||||||||||
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I have finished all of the available Carnacki tales by Hodgson. None of them are among the greats of weird fiction, or even Hodgson's work, but as formulaic and somewhat simplistic adventures they're mostly enjoyable fun and some such as The Whistling Room and The Hog were unsettling in parts. I think these would be strong stories for children just getting in to weird fiction/ghost stories, as they remain very accessible and have aged better than many stories from this period in terms of modern standards of pacing.
The intrigue and suspense came from the possibility that each tale could be non-supernatural, and I do admit to being wrong-footed at least once, although the human ingenuity in that particular story was itself preternatural. |
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