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Old 05-23-2017   #11
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Re: Idpol

Over the past two years I've been reading a lot about diversity in speculative fiction and I kept wondering if I should post some articles here but I didn't know if I should create a thread or find appropriate existing threads.
This article by Vajra Chandrasekera is one of the standouts I remember. It raises issues about certain terms I never saw many others discussing.
Which This Margin Is Too Small To Contain Vajra Chandrasekera

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Blame it on folks who don't really analyze society on a structural basis. They stop at white cisgendered men... they've certainly identified the ruling class, but they don't understand *why* this demographic is the ruling class.

Why are white cisgendered men the ruling class?

Who is your ideal ruling class?



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In America, they have the greatest fiscal and political influence, so it's safe to call them the ruling class.

Wealth inequality has widened along racial, ethnic lines since end of Great Recession | Pew Research Center

The Excessive Political Power Of White Men In The United States, In One Chart

This does not imply that people who are white, male, and cis are immune to prejudice or struggle. Me being a rural Appalachian being can attest to this. Affirmative action benefitted me because of my background.

My ideal ruling class is none at all.

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The wealthy elite are the ruling class. Many of them are white male, but I don't think it's really fair to call white men the ruling class considering so many of them are working class and/or dead broke. I think that can build resentment from people who are overworked in ####ty jobs and then come home to turn on the TV and be told they have all the power and privilege.

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The wealthy elite are the ruling class. Many of them are white male
Is it not fair to say they are the majority of that elite and hold the most power within it?

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Yes, but the majority of white men aren't part of that elite and suffer under their system. The white male working class vastly outnumber the white male elite, and they're also by far the most likely to commit suicide of any demographic.

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If we're going to be nitpicky, wealthy white men are the ruling class. It's not enough to say we are ruled by the wealthy—the wealthy ruling class is defined by its "whiteness" just as much, if not more so, as it is by its wealth.
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I would appreciate it if someone could explain to me why the holier-than- thou, "Moral Majority," "Family values" crowd would detest Barack Obama and his family and endorse someone like Donald Trump. Thank you.
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The complexity of world politics or even interpersonal relationships and communication are too much for the overworked or ignorant so they go to InfoWars and such for the nice two-dimensional conflict they then engage in, liberated from such things as research standards or integrity. They're no better than the SJWs on the other side of the spectrum. It all comes down to anti-intellectualism with both sides. Their factionalism removes them of the burden of having to think or feel for themselves.

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I was under the impression that rich black NBA and NFL players were the ruling class in America? I wouldn't exactly call Warren Buffet, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos a circle of tyrants. Being wealthy doesn't automatically make you evil. All this talk is nothing more than resentment by the dull and lazy for those who are bright and industrious. The richest Australian is a woman. Oh the injustice! She's not even attractive, how did she do it?
Like James said, not everyone is an intellectual. More than half of ones success in life is predetermined before your parents even copulate. Attempting to reverse engineer society against nature is far more horrific than some people not having jobs because of automation and new technology, or being called nigger, or white dog, or fat bitch, or pin dick, or trans freak. Hierarchy will always exist, even if cash is removed from the equation. Social currency becomes the medium of exchange and the individual with the most is appointed aristocracy by those who have very little. This is an emergent phenomena in every society and culture. Even within a small circle of friends. There is nothing more disgusting than white people hating other white people for having privilege. I endured this garbage at university. As far as literature goes, I would never read anything that jerked off the cathedral. Like for instance, a story about a white prole, probably a coal miner with an IQ of around 75 who was recently laid off and loves nothing more than bashing his courageous wife . . . He turns out to be a big centipede . . . Muh weird fiction as weaponised idpol . . . Failed mortar strike . . .


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