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Old 07-10-2017   #131
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Re: Walter de la Mare Strangers and Pilgrims

The very first sentence of De La Mare's introduction confirms as much:

'The collections of poems and passages in prose that follows may be opened at random, browsed in, and then laid aside, until (as I hope) it is returned to again.'
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Re: Walter de la Mare Strangers and Pilgrims

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A reminder to people that Out of the Deep and Other Supernatural Tales is now available. It's fantastic to finally have a cheap Amazon paperback of Walter's supernatural fiction to point to people.
I finally got round to reading this because I wanted a light de la Mare book and one I could read without worrying about damage and also because it included A Game at Cards, which is the final de la Mare supernatural tale I had left to read and was inexplicably missing from my three volume set of his complete short stories.

I recommend this to people because it's a cheap and concise de la Mare, who with his best darker tales was as good as Aickman, but as I stated in my brief Goodreads review I do think it is marred by including a few somewhat lesser and sentimental stories. Enjoyable as they are, I would have replaced A Game at Cards, A Revenant and The Guardian with The Tree, Mr. Kempe and An Anniversary. I think these better represent de la Mare's unique qualities as a writer, though of course even lesser de la Mare is somewhat of a delight to read. If a pleasant sentimental ghostly tale were required in order to showcase the breadth of de la Mare's range, I would rather they included The House, which is a superb eerie and comforting tale in which the sentimentality landed gently and managed to move me.

The more balanced collections regrettably missing some of his mature horror stories, and the collections which feature more of his horror stories tend to contain too many sentimental fantasies for my taste. One day I'm going to edit my own edition of his fiction, and until then this will be the go-to thread for fans of this obscure author complaining about new editions of his work.

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Re: Walter de la Mare Strangers and Pilgrims

I drafted this for a friend who purchased his complete short fiction. I'm less keen on some of the lighter fantasies, so I jotted down my top twenty Walter de la Mare strange tales:

Seaton's Aunt
Mr Kempe
All Hallows
The Tree
A:B:O
Crewe
A Recluse
Out of the Deep
The Almond Tree
Miss Duveen
Willows
An Ideal Craftsman
A Froward Child
The Trumpet
Strangers and Pilgrims
Missing
Winter
The Green Room
The Riddle
An Anniversary

There are a couple it pained me to leave out. I think many of these stories would be more conducive to the average strange fiction aficionado's tastes than a fair amount of the content in the collections limiting themselves to his explicitly genre tales only. I dream of one day editing a streamlined edition called All Hallows and Other Strange Stories by Walter de la Mare, which would sell him quite well to a new audience. He's still criminally overlooked and more often mentioned than discussed. Most of my searches come up with my own obsessive crowing on here.

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Re: Walter de la Mare Strangers and Pilgrims

It's a fine list, James. The first eight selections are essential to all lovers of spectral literature. I would have included "A Revenant," "The Wharf" and "Bad Company" in place of "The Green Room" and "An Anniversary" and one or two others. What about "A Mote"? That's a fine piece and Ramsey anthologized it.

Glad to see you included "Missing" and 'The Trumpet". Nice.
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Re: Walter de la Mare Strangers and Pilgrims

They're all good stories, but I don't return to them as often as this twenty. The Almond Tree and Missing are my favourite stories of his outside the 'horror' genre.

What are your thoughts on The Return? It has moments of real profundity, but I wish it were a short story instead. Such repetition.

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I admire The Return on an artistic level but I seldom return to it. I suspect it would indeed make a splendid short story but as a novel it's too verbose and fastidious. I admire the talent there but, unlike de la Mare's best works, it doesn't have a strong emotional impact on me.
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Re: Walter de la Mare Strangers and Pilgrims

My thoughts almost exactly. Much to admire, but not him at his best. Memoirs of a Midget, on the other (white) hand, is delightful.

One day, if it isn't available elsewhere online, I might type up Walter's introduction to Colin de la Mare's They Walk Again: An Anthology of Ghost Stories. It's quite long, and a master's thoughts on the form are always vital.

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Re: Walter de la Mare Strangers and Pilgrims

Speaking of "returns", having recently enjoyed Twin Peaks: The Return, it occurred to me that David Lynch might appreciate the open-endedness of de la Mare's tales. If I had Lynch's ear, then I would recommend "The Riddle", "Missing", and "Seaton's Aunt" to him, to start. I think Lynch would be delighted.
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Re: Walter de la Mare Strangers and Pilgrims

The pre-occupation with dreams reminds me of Lynch also.

I'm still looking for more modern writers similar to Walter de la Mare, Robert Aickman and Shirley Jackson.

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Good Luck, James!

Sarban and Aickman were pretty much the last of their kind. Let me know if you find anyone.
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