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Re: Nihilist poseurs and tiresome decadent rebels?
I was thinking that a lot virtue signalling should maybe be forgiven more often because of something similar to the complexities you mention. When you're discussing social justice on a regular basis it's probably easier to fall into but with worse consequences than nihilistic posturing. | |||||||||||
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Re: Nihilist poseurs and tiresome decadent rebels?
"Nihilists, huh? Say what you want about the tenents of national socialism at least it's an ethos." ---from The Big Lebowski | |||||||||||
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Re: Nihilist poseurs and tiresome decadent rebels?
I hear you, I've just let go of wanting or needing people to be anything at all. Maybe that is a bad thing, I don't know. It does allow me to accept and care about people more, but it also makes me more neutral when it comes to human behavior in general. There are so many things about being human that eludes personal control. I ultimately feel sorry for everyone. | |||||||||||
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Re: Nihilist poseurs and tiresome decadent rebels?
Jig's up, I guess. I admit I've only been pretending to be an introverted pessimist in the hopes someone would take pity of me and offer to pay my dry-cleaning bills.
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Re: Nihilist poseurs and tiresome decadent rebels?
Huysmans is a different case. As an individual he was neurotically sensitive to both visual ugliness and beauty. The French Naturalist school of literature from which he emerged also made a point of focusing on the most grimy and downbeat aspects of modern life as a way to scandalize and (sometimes) raise awareness of social corruption. Husymans took the same approach first to illustrate the philosophy of Schopenhauer and later the truth of a certain kind of Catholicism. I wouldn't deny this connection, however ultimately the two are incompatible. Like any political system Fascism must contain normative elements which of course are incompatible with the denial of objective values. Productive of what? There is as much reason to laugh as not to laugh, that is none at all. People still have a tendency to dive for moral indignation if one laughs at or wills the suffering of others however. | |||||||||||
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Re: Nihilist poseurs and tiresome decadent rebels?
"Since we do not exist outside or apart from Life, we are part of the joke & the joke itself does not laugh." Ibrahim, genius!
The fetishisation of humour and irony is just another form of smugness. Tell someone being bombed or with agonising cancer to laugh. Humour is great when it's natural, not when it's part of some Pollyanna uplift or Smug Commentary program. | |||||||||||
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Re: Nihilist poseurs and tiresome decadent rebels?
Mind it, I do like his ambient recordings, and Music, Martinis and Misanthropy is still the brilliant, beautiful, gem of his life's work. But other than that, it's all the same. His fixation with Might is Right politics is a notable dent on his music. Everything is about strength, and crushing the weak, and jada jada jada... there is no variation, no evolution, no nothing. Just the same boring crap. End of my rant. I do agree with the rest of your points, by the way. | |||||||||||
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Re: Nihilist poseurs and tiresome decadent rebels?
Who are the ones who want an easy life and who needs to be an angry underdog? | |||||||||||
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Re: Nihilist poseurs and tiresome decadent rebels?
One oughtn't to go too far with humor and irony; it's better not to be the Fortunato to someone's Montressor. I think memes and ####posting would be a good way to avoid suffering and get the message out to the world at large. We could do a lot with Wojak. He fits the pessimist's purposes quite well. | |||||||||||
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Re: Nihilist poseurs and tiresome decadent rebels?
This is reminiscent of some thoughts I had on many people who call themselves atheists as reactionnaires and consequently can be called poseurs. In any event, a poseur tries on a new identity for the same reason any member of the herd maintains herd behavior: to stay or become part of a group. There is no real thought as to what nihilism, or any misanthropic philosophy, entails, as it was not arrived at by any real reflection. Anger, exclusion, misjudgment, disenfranchisement, etc. probably have much more to do with such poseurs than serious philosophical thought.
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