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Mystic
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Re: The Literature of Cruelty.
Recently translated to English graphic novel - Beautiful Darkness, it contains many themes that correspond to this thread, little treasure.
"You've seen countless stories about cute little creatures living secretly in our world, but you've never read one like Beautiful Darkness. It's a world that's as adorable as it is cruel, where life is beautiful but also cheap, and where death is omnipresent.”—io9 | |||||||||||
I knew that someday I was gonna die / And I knew before I died Two things would happen to me / That number one I would regret my entire life / And number two I would want to live my life over again.
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05-14-2014 | #22 | |||||||||||
Chymist
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Re: The Literature of Cruelty.
Islam, Judaism, and Christianity, are closely related Middle East social cultural phenomena, superstitions, that have no place in European Western society. | |||||||||||
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05-17-2014 | #23 | |||||||||||
Mystic
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Re: The Literature of Cruelty.
I'd like to recommend this book by Susan Sontag:
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02-14-2016 | #24 | |||||||||||
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Re: The Literature of Cruelty.
- I believe Lykiard's translation is pretty much universally held to be the superior of the two; based on my own readings I personally found it to be far stronger than the other translation as well.
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02-15-2016 | #25 | |||||||||||
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Re: The Literature of Cruelty.
All of Georges Bataille's fiction . . . Blue of Noon, L'Abbe C, Story of the Eye, My Mother, Madame Edwarda, The Dead Man, The Impossible . . . And The Sailor Who Fell from Grace with the Sea by Yukio Mishima. Both writers laugh with the unity and affirmation of cruelty and eroticism, horror and the divine, beauty and nihility. If you want cruelty and a beautiful narrative, I recommend Georges Bataille and Yukio Mishima over Marquis de Sade and Comte de Latreamont.
120 Days of Sodom bored the #### out of me, especially once I'd finished jerking off . . . and Latreamont . . . well I only got halfway through Les Chants de Maldoror before I put it back on my shelf . . . it just wasn't to my taste . . . I may pick it up again in the future. "I teach the art of turning horror into delight" - Georges Bataille | |||||||||||
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Mystic
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Re: The Literature of Cruelty.
I keep meaning to read some of Bataille's fiction. I read his Erotisme and thought it was fantastic, particularly in the way it linked cruelty and violence with the religious and mystical pursuit of transcendence.
I don't think any library devoted to the literature of cruelty would be complete without the stories of Paul Bowles. Cruelty, both subtle and flagrant, probably constitute his central concern in his best stories, such as "The Delicate Prey" and "A Distant Episode" and "Allal". | |||||||||||
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02-15-2016 | #27 | |||||||||||
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Re: The Literature of Cruelty.
Octave Mirbeau's "Torture Garden."
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02-15-2016 | #28 | |||||||||||
Mystic
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Re: The Literature of Cruelty.
The Bricoleur: The English Translations of Maldoror interestingly the previously recommended version by Lykiard is his least favourite, but in some ways seems the most accurate | |||||||||||
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Re: The Literature of Cruelty.
Two more came to mind.
The Genius of Assassins: Three Dreams of Murder in the First Person by Michael Cisco, and Journey to the End of the Night by Louis-Ferdinand Celine. The cruelty of Celine isn't desiderata of riven flesh, but an invective hatred of everything that exists. I've never read a book as intensely harrowing and strangely humorous as Journey to the End of the Night. I only finished reading this book a couple of weeks ago and feel I need to re-read it before I begin Celine's other novels. I'm surprised the forum dedicated to Celine on TLO is so void of discussion. | |||||||||||
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Re: The Literature of Cruelty.
I find The Heart is Deceitful Above All Things to be particularly cruel. Though with someone here saying they got bored reading 120 Days of Sodom , I'm not sure if it's suitably cruel or not.
There's also Raise The Red Lantern by Su Tong. Both meet my criteria for cruel literature: the characters know they've no hope from the beginning to end, and things only get worse for them. | |||||||||||
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---Tears and Saints, E. M. Cioran
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