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Old 11-04-2014   #31
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Re: Antinatalists Corner

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I read the Bible and understand how people can be inspired by it; I read CATHR and weep at the pointlessness I feel, in my guts and bones, suffuses every action I carry-out, every breath I take, every pulse of my heart. If that's not terrifying, I don't know what is.
Terrifying is good, terrifying is inspiration in itself. A God-empty universe is a hopeful self-full universe.

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Re: Antinatalists Corner

Art and philosophy should always go together, if you think that you can find perfect balance between these two and make it work then you should always go for it, this combination, for me, is always sign of great works. But that is little bit to idealistic, usually one element always hurt another, not because it's a bad combination but mostly because author is just not capable-skilled enough.
Usually, (lesser) art, can do without philosophy but philosophy can never do without art.

Both of them are ultimately achieving absolutely nothing, there is no goal or any substantial reason behind them, you can't hurt them (enough) by mixing them together.

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Re: Antinatalists Corner

RE art & philosophy, if there is a philosophy in Ligotti's fiction, naming it antinatalism (or pessimism for that matter) feels just as reductive as naming the philosophy in Lovecraft materialism.
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Re: Antinatalists Corner

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" When a depressed psychotic begins to recover, that is, when
recovery becomes possible, the illness makes a final all-out
attack, and this is the point of maximum suicide danger. You might say the human race is now at this point, in a position for the first time, by virtue of knowledge which may destroy us, to step free of self-imposed restrictions and see all life as a fact. When
you see the world direct, everything is a delight, and boredom or
unhappiness is impossible.
The forces of negation and death are now making their all-out
suicidal effort. The citizens of the world are helpless in a paranoid
panic. First one thing and then another is seen as the enemy,
while the real enemy hesitates-perhaps because it looks too easy,
like an ambush. Among the Arabs and the East in general, the West (especially America), or domination by foreigners, is seen
as the enemy. In the West: communism, queers, drug addicts."

This is William S. Burroughs writing to Ginsberg around 1955.
Very prophetic.
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Re: Antinatalists Corner

http://verybadwizards.com/episodes/54

Antinatalism discussed on a popular podcast.
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"In a less scientific age, he would have been a devil-worshipper, a partaker in the abominations of the Black Mass; or would have given himself to the study and practice of sorcery. His was a religious soul that had failed to find good in the scheme of things; and lacking it, was impelled to make of evil itself an object of secret reverence."

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