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Old 02-25-2014   #11
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Re: What Movie Would You Like to See Remade?

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8 mm - great idea so far as plot and characters, terrible execution and an overdrawn ending.

The Crow; bring back Alex Proyas as director, but try not to kill lead actor until all non-action scenes have been filmed.

Finally, every Philip K. Dick adaption except Blade Runner

I remember the critics completely trashed 8mm so I never bothered with it.

I love The Crow. I started with the graphic novel by James O'Barr and I wasn't disappointed in the least. A unique look, innovative direction, and a great energetic soundtrack. Last summer when I was cleaning out my storage unit I discovered a Crow art portfolio by O'Barr that was completely destroyed by water damage. Ugh! I feel Michael Wincott deserved better roles than he's gotten since. But he was in Romeo is Bleeding and Dead Man, both are films I enjoy, especially the latter.

Speaking of Proyas, what do you guys think about Dark City?

I agree with you on the Phillip K. Dick adaptations, although I would add Minority Report which I thought was a fine film. Blade Runner is a favorite.
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Re: What Movie Would You Like to See Remade?

So far as The Crow - I did say I would bring Proyas back to direct. Brandon Lee's death, however, required simplifying the dialogue in several scenes and shortening or eliminating others. The film that made it to screen was an action flick - the comic, and I suspect the original script, dealt more with Draven coping with the aftermath of his murder. I have a great deal of nostalgia for the film - along with Rocky Horror it pretty much created the "Goth" scene where I grew up - but it shows the cut and paste Proyas had to do to salvage it.

Dark City is a masterpiece though

8 MM isn't terrible - it's the sort of hard boiled detective story that, like horror, is going to be automatically docked by many critics just for existing. It goes well enough, despite Nicholas Cage, until the last 20 minutes where the "search for why people do bad things" theme is spelled out explicitly in a corny rogue cop epilogue. I've always felt the materials for a brilliant movie where there with some better acting and some script changes.
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Re: What Movie Would You Like to See Remade?

8 MM wasn't a bad film at all. It was a dark, sleazy noir that bordered on horror and I thought even Nicholas Cage was pretty good in his role. It was infinitely superior to crap like Fox's The Following which aims for the same sort of thing but ends up just ridiculous because of lazy writers and a cynical decision to push the S/M envelope as far as possible on network TV.
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Re: What Movie Would You Like to See Remade?

I'd certainly say 8 MM is worth watching despite its flaws...but contrasting it with network crime dramas sets the bar mighty low.
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Re: What Movie Would You Like to See Remade?

Even for an individual with a hard stomach, I found 8mm to be one of the "meaner" films I've ever seen released by a mainstream US film company.
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Re: What Movie Would You Like to See Remade?

Call me sentimental, but "The Crow", despite the "copying and pasting" (is it really that evident upon a first viewing?) is a film that falls in a certain time period perfectly (the 90's) and Brandon Lee was somehow perfect for it. I'd find it distasteful to remake it--it'll never happen, anyway.
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Re: What Movie Would You Like to See Remade?

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Even for an individual with a hard stomach, I found 8mm to be one of the "meaner" films I've ever seen released by a mainstream US film company.
Teguififthzeal, I kid you not, The Following is a far meaner piece of work. There is, I think, a difference between a 'brutal' film like 8 MM and Kevin Williamson's moronic exercise in torture porn...Bacon and Purefoy probably deserved better.
The audience certainly did.
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Re: What Movie Would You Like to See Remade?

The Crow certainly tapped into it's time, and I agree that this aspect could never be remade. My Life With The Thrill Kill Cult's cameo, for instance, was one of the musical highlights of the film; even granting that the band is still together and touring, "After the Flesh" wouldn't have the same punch it did back in 1994 when few people had heard any aggressive electronic music. I remember a lot of metal heads who were floored by the song. I can't imagine any current artist they could dig up to get a similar effect.
..It's also interesting to compare The Crow to the sequel so far as a snap shot of popular culture and big media. The first film tapped into the college radio movement at the outset - the later was a pretty obvious attempt to market the "Alternative" counter-culture.

..but all of that's separate from The Crow's story line and characters. A remake wouldn't unmake the original or erase history - just give a different take on it. Of course, given the last decade in Hollywood, I have low hopes for any remake...but we're speaking hypothetically.
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Re: What Movie Would You Like to See Remade?

I just read the reviews of 8 MM on Rotten Tomatoes - I didn't realize the film was trashed so thoroughly. It's a much better film than that - I stand by my criticisms, but a lot of criticism I saw were unfair and reactionary.
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Re: What Movie Would You Like to See Remade?

I agree with Speaking Mute. I think the subject matter was just too unpleasant for most critics. Critics are human beings too (hard to believe, I know). At that time, it was a pretty shocking film and certain parts were admittedly hard to watch. But it was far more honest and better constructed in its depiction of the blackest evil man is capable of...far more so than Kevin Williamson's appalling Fox series.
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