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Old 11-03-2014   #21
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Re: Antinatalists Corner

Bottom line is that Tom Ligotti will be remembered as an artist, not as a philosopher.

Somewhere along the way in weird fiction (thanks to STJ), the lines have been needlessly blurred.

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I think it's worth noting that in Ligotti's "Metaphysica Morum," it is "demoralized mutants," not superior dispassionate ratiocinators, who are harbingers of the "closed-off future."
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Re: Antinatalists Corner

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Bottom line is that Tom Ligotti will be remembered as an artist, not as a philosopher.

Somewhere along the way in weird fiction (thanks to STJ), the lines have been needlessly blurred.

Mark S.
I suspect he'll be remembered as both artist and philosopher. I don't personally think the two are mutually exclusive--at least not in his case.

"...the uncanny is to me the defining trait of this strange and terrible world and our strange and terrible minds." --Thomas Ligotti
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I don't think so. I realise mine may be a minority opinion, especially here at the TLO, but, as with Lovecraft, another greater artist than philosopher, Ligotti's posthumous survival will rest upon his imagination. A true artist can make sense of any philosophy. The reverse is seldom the case.

Time will tell, of course.

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As a horror writer Ligotti is a huge figure. As a philosopher.. not so much.. his sole book of philosophy is a guide to OTHER philosophers who influenced Ligotti and his writing. He does not bring much original to the field.. he more shows how weird fiction and modern philosophy are going down similar roads.
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I agree with the previous posts. Art has the potential to be greater than philosophy, using ingeniously crafted lies to tell us...truth.

Colin Wilson's Glass Cage was a fine novel that may have inspired Red Dragon; but Wilson's insistence on being taken seriously as a philosopher soon destroyed his ability to write great novels. The Art would come second...and the philosophy was banal.
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Religion and the Rebel was kinda cool.

“The real reason why so few men believe in God is that they have ceased to believe that even a God can love them.”
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Time will tell.

Personally, I think CATHR is the most terrifying book I've ever read.

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The Bible is scarier.

No one wants to end up in Hell for eternity. I think I may be in danger of it. I've seen too much of the truth to be safe.

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The Xian Bible is scary. In fact, don't read it.
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