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Trump threatened nuclear war several times in the past week and you supported his statements. Pretty hard to read it any other way.
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No, I supported the tough talk. Diplomacy has been tried for 25 years without results. Trump's last option was to take a tough stance, something no administration in the past has done, and to hope Kim understood the language.

I think it's a bluff on both sides. We'll see, won't we?
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I normally stay clear of political issues, and this is the last place where I would state my opinions on such matters, but I have been meaning to express my thoughts on the loathsome, despicable, utterly reprehensible pile of lying, walking excrement that is Donald Trump. He is one of the many reasons that I am not proud to be a human being; he is an emblem of all that I detest about humanity, and he has bitten off more than he can chew with becoming President of the United States. He is an utterly stupid ignoramus who is willing to let his country, and the entire world, fall into ruin. The man is a despicable creature and the whole world should not have to suffer for him or his family. He must be stopped. The terrorist incident in Charlottesville confirms my belief that violence and hatred are immutable traits in human beings; no amount of love or the spilled blood of innocents can change that. Indeed, it is hard for me to imagine anything more human than inhumanity. In that regard, when it comes to human nature, I am very pessimistic. I can derive joy from the land, the mountains, the waters, the trees, but rarely from people.

Trump is not unique. There have been monstrous, contemptible personalities throughout human history; Trump can safely take his place next to the other tyrants and blackguards in the slimy sewers of history.

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Tough talk is very dumb if he doesn't plan to back it up. And if he does, it is absolute insanity. So either way, his statements are the height of stupidity. He basically is doing exactly what Kim Jong Un wants.
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Full transparency: Alchemist, I removed a sentence in your post. Promoting violence in any way is not acceptable here.

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Fair enough, Doctor. I apologise. In a violent world, struggling with violent impulses, I think being a pacifist is difficult yet admirable and ultimately beneficial. I am sure that we are all doomed, but not now, hopefully...

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No, I supported the tough talk. Diplomacy has been tried for 25 years without results. Trump's last option was to take a tough stance, something no administration in the past has done, and to hope Kim understood the language.
Last option? He did not even attempt diplomacy beyond a few disparaging Tweets directed at the Chinese that they should solve the problem. His tough stance move was taken without the consult of or notification to his own defense department. In fact they were issued within a few short days after stricter UN sanctions were levied against North Korea with the support of China and Russia.

He said that "fire and fury" would be unleashed if North Korea issued another threat, which it has already. We are not negotiating with NYC to get tax abatements to pay for a building renovation. Trump is out of his element (cheating in business) and this is the type of person that could start a world war (intentionally or through idiotic misadventure).

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I think it's a bluff on both sides. We'll see, won't we?
And what of the stakes just to see the hand played out?

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Re: Trump

There has been back channel diplomacy for months. Fact.

All the analysts agree N. Korea has no interest in diplomacy at this time.

Do you want a paranoid like Kim to pursue nuclear weapons and nuclear blackmail?

Trump is using the last card in his deck. China clearly has a very limited interest in this. It's a pity the Obstructionists have prevented Trump from striking up better relations with Russia. Ah, but that's spilled milk now.

Rightly or wrongly, I still believe it's a bluff for both parties. But if Guam is targeted, all bets are off...
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There has been back channel diplomacy for months. Fact.
You must be referring to the Russians.

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Do you want a paranoid like Kim to pursue nuclear weapons and nuclear blackmail?
No more than I want a paranoid lunatic like Trump having access to the doomsday device while playing out infantile chess moves.

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Trump is using the last card in his deck. China clearly has a very limited interest in this. It's a pity the Obstructionists have prevented Trump from striking up better relations with Russia. Ah, but that's spilled milk now.
Obstructionists? Funny how that term has been borrowed from the Obama days, when Republicans treasonously rejected any legislation regardless of merit. How can a party truly obstruct when it has neither the presidency nor either house of government? If there is an obstructionist, it is Trump as he is sabotaging the party he is allegedly representing.

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