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Old 05-08-2017   #31
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Re: Still no "Mountains of Madness" movie

Ridley's films have had amazing visual moments but I wouldn't say many of his fantasies are that great looking overall.

As long as a female character wasn't a love interest I don't think it would really change anything. You make them all women and it wouldn't make a difference to the story.

As much as I recoil from the idea of making it an action film, that's more to do with how blockbusters overwhelmingly look samey and boring than anything else.

If you're going to do a different version why not change as much as possible?

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Re: Still no "Mountains of Madness" movie

Werner Herzog has a truly unique, conflicted approach that combines a naturalist's fascination with wilderness along with a simultaneous loathing for it, which would well serve Lovecraft's similar awed yet fearful treatment of the hostile antarctic. Herzog also has a fine touch for displaying the uncanny.

And he has well-known affinity for portraying obsessive madmen driven to pursue their isolated quest against all odds, which would seem to be an excellent character development for both Dr. Dyer and Danforth in film.

To my mind, the director of "Aguirre, the Wrath of God;" "Fitzcarraldo;" "Nosferatu the Vampyre;" and "The Wild Blue Yonder" (incorporating Antarctic footage) would probably be the ideal choice for ATMOM. Alas, while still active, he is getting on in years so would have to join such a project very soon.

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Re: Still no "Mountains of Madness" movie

The thing is, if you're going to intentionally film a very different version of ATMOM you aren't filming Lovecraft's work. So why bother?

A female character (or characters) would be extremely unrealistic in a story of Antarctic exploration set in 1931.

Like gasoline and water, Lovecraft and action films do not mix well.


Fritz Leiber had a nice idea for a contemporary version of the novel: The Old Ones using a telepathic form of mass hypnosis to prevent contemporary man from seeing the Mountains. It explains why they aren't on our updated maps ot the Great Wasteland.
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Re: Still no "Mountains of Madness" movie

Female as love interest, no.
Female as sexual provocateur, then yes.

Censors, like HPL himself, might be squeamish over that, though.
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Re: Still no "Mountains of Madness" movie

Of all the many changes they could make to the source material, a female character would bother me least. I doubt it would impact the story or its atmosphere at all, and I could think of many actresses who suit the main roles better than Tom Cruise anyway.

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Re: Still no "Mountains of Madness" movie

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A female character (or characters) would be extremely unrealistic in a story of Antarctic exploration set in 1931
Was the film script set in that time? Unless it's important to have historical accuracy (it's not for me in this case), I don't mind alternate history or an alternate present.

Why bother making an adaptation so different? I'm not a fan of adaptations, at least in principle. There are of course lots of good ones but I'd rather people did something else, but if you're committed to doing an adaptation, a faithful one seems to me a waste of time. Might as well read the book.
There's a whole bunch of issues with adaptations creating opportunities that an original project would probably not be allowed and sometimes adaptations are glorified adverts.

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Female as sexual provocateur, then yes.

Censors, like HPL himself, might be squeamish over that, though.
Where would you put that in?

I know HPL wasn't into sex but why do you say he's a censor?

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Re: Still no "Mountains of Madness" movie

Lovecraft, like his alter ego Pickman, was a realist at heart.

Me, too.

The only Lovecraft stories you could add an erotic element to would be "The Thing on the Doorstep" or "Medusa's Coils."

I wouldn't; but you could.

I consider "The Story of O" to be the last true Gothic novel so I'm not exactly a Puritan. But Lovecraft and eroticism? Nyarlathotep punishes such thoughts.
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Re: Still no "Mountains of Madness" movie

HPL would be squeamish about sex.
Censors would be squeamish about sex.
HPL would not necessarily equate with all censorship, however.

I would have the female as a native guide.
Something akin to a tribal remnant surviving on the southern tip of Chile or South Georgia Island.
What matters is she is a member of the cult of believers.
A mysterious female, who was definitely not a love interest, was used to fine effect in Dan Simmons's The Terror.
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Re: Still no "Mountains of Madness" movie

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What would think of David Lynch having a bash?
I am not a Lynch fan, by the way.
It may well be that "Inland Empire" was his swan song.
http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/...16-gvlr60.html
"Twin Peaks" is of course another matter.
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