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Old 06-16-2016   #11
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Re: Bukowski sometimes reminds me of Ligotti.

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This article genuinely pissed me off. There is no excuse for distorting an author's vision. It is just as bad as censorship.

"The senseless, tragic rape of Charles Bukowski’s ghost by John Martin’s Black Sparrow Press"

The senseless, tragic rape of Charles Bukowskis Black Sparrow Press - mjp Booksmjp Books

People have to watch out for this kind of stuff.
####ing scumbag.
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Re: Bukowski sometimes reminds me of Ligotti.

Quote Originally Posted by With Strength I Burn View Post
This article genuinely pissed me off. There is no excuse for distorting an author's vision. It is just as bad as censorship.

"The senseless, tragic rape of Charles Bukowski’s ghost by John Martin’s Black Sparrow Press"

The senseless, tragic rape of Charles Bukowskis Black Sparrow Press - mjp Booksmjp Books

People have to watch out for this kind of stuff.
I am amazed that such a thing could happen. Martin completely changed the tone of the poem with his 'edits'. He inserted his voice into it like a coward wannabe who couldn't make anyone read his poems and therefore had to live vicariously through a dead poet's name. What he imagined would make the poem 'classy' makes it stuck-up (the replacement of "dirty" with "vulgar") , and the pithy expressions of Bukowski he changed into a kind of self-aggrandizing confession (the line "I like that" stuck out like thumbnail in my eye).



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This article genuinely pissed me off. There is no excuse for distorting an author's vision. It is just as bad as censorship.

"The senseless, tragic rape of Charles Bukowski’s ghost by John Martin’s Black Sparrow Press"

The senseless, tragic rape of Charles Bukowskis Black Sparrow Press - mjp Booksmjp Books

People have to watch out for this kind of stuff.
I am amazed that such a thing could happen. Martin completely changed the tone of the poem with his 'edits'. He inserted his voice into it like a coward wannabe who couldn't make anyone read his poems and therefore had to live vicariously through a dead poet's name. What he imagined would make the poem 'classy' makes it stuck-up (the replacement of "dirty" with "vulgar") , and the pithy expressions of Bukowski he changed into a kind of self-aggrandizing confession (the line "I like that" stuck out like thumbnail in my eye).


He's worse than Derleth.
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Re: Bukowski sometimes reminds me of Ligotti.

Derleth may have used Lovecraft's ideas and name but at least he wrote his own characters and words. What this guy did to Bukowski's work would be similar to grafting cow's calves to replace Venus de Milo's missing arms to make her look more 'presentable'.

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Re: Bukowski sometimes reminds me of Ligotti.

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Here was Martin's narcissistic Wikipedia before my edit:
John Martin (publisher) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Martin is justly celebrated as the greatest small-press publisher of the 20th century.
Here is Martin's Wikipedia after my edit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Martin_(publisher)
What bombastic praises:

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working alone to heroically publish Bukowski and other, lesser, writers
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Martin's editing has been praised for his scrupulous adherence to the spirit and intentions of his stable of writers
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s a self-made man, is rightly proud of his contribution to literary history
It's good that you cut his size down @With Strength I Burn

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Re: Bukowski sometimes reminds me of Ligotti.

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Re: Bukowski sometimes reminds me of Ligotti.

One of my regrets was when I lived in L A in the 70s, I never tried to visit Bukowski.
I drove to Harlan Ellison's home off Mulholland Drive, and I went into Hollywood all the time, yet I never showed up at Bukowski's house.
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Re: Bukowski sometimes reminds me of Ligotti.

That "editing" is simply disgusting.
If Buk wanted to use vulgar instead of dirty he would have, ignorance was not a problem for Buk.
Changing losing $40 to winning $400 shows a complete lack of understanding who and what Buk was.
He should write his own poem, "What I wish Hank had written so he sounded more like me" so no one would pay any attention to it, instead of the gross pile that is being shown.
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