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Re: Nihilist poseurs and tiresome decadent rebels?
DM Mitchell, who written some books and edited Creation's Starry Wisdom series of Lovecraft anthologies tried to brutally murder his friend and the victim escaped with awful injuries and said Mitchell was laughing when attacking him. Mitchell offered no explanation in court why he attacked his friend.
I think years ago this would have been a way bigger story used for pro-censorship ends and I'm surprised I only just found out about it. | |||||||||||
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Re: Nihilist poseurs and tiresome decadent rebels?
Although this is almost certainly true, because misery is largely only attractive at a distance, I think it should be pointed out that neither nihilism or decadence are the same thing as unhappiness. Whether or not they imply unhappiness is a question that people might disagree on. | |||||||||||
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Re: Nihilist poseurs and tiresome decadent rebels?
I know, and I have often argued that on this very forum. I was responding to the thread of conversation decrying people acting negative, dark or angry to appear edgy.
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I think I've said earlier that being a poseur or showy or a virtue signaller doesn't really prevent one from being intelligent, or a good artist, or generally sincere about what they talk about. It's just that there's some amount of dishonesty in service of creating a certain image of themselves.
I actually like a lot of stuff created by some of these people so I don't intend this thread as some damning judgement. If someone could produce a study on edgelords I would be interested but I'm not able to capture enough of them for my lab testings. I need to go to more Lars Von Trier screenings and Boyd Rice concerts and lure them with something suitably edgy. | |||||||||||
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I'll tell them I'm going to write what will be the new Apocalypse Culture for our age and I'm just going to meet Gaspar Noe for an interview and they might want to come along and I'll drop hints that I just might be a Nazi.
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Re: Nihilist poseurs and tiresome decadent rebels?
I recently watched a Louis Theroux documentary about the Nazi that might interest you. One of the main guy, an ex-leader of the KKK, has an on/off hardcore persona. He seems to enjoy the attention his extreme values attract, though he doesn't enforce them on himself seriously.
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Fascism and cowardice Paul StJohn Mackintosh
Mackintosh again. Features some of our familiar interests and maybe goes towards explaining why we've occasionally had extremists here. It is a little unsettling that so many of our interests have these connections. | |||||||||||
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What about the Great Purge? Is it called bravery when it's in the "name of the highest motives"? History doesn't lack brave men and women with their "highest motives" and killing fields (Crusaders, Mao's Red Guards). I don't believe their causes are anymore validated than the cowards. I don't know if authority and unreason can be worshipped together. One thing lacking in all this is the role Hope plays. Celine, a misanthrope, a broken man after the WWI horror he witnessed--I sometimes wonder why he came to believe a simple solution "Get rid of the Jews" would fix France's problems. | |||||||||||
"Tell me how you want to die, and I'll tell you who you are. In other words, how do you fill out an empty life? With women, books, or worldly ambitions? No matter what you do, the starting point is boredom, and the end self-destruction. The emblem of our fate: the sky teeming with worms. Baudelaire taught me that life is the ecstasy of worms in the sun, and happiness the dance of worms."
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