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Old 10-14-2017   #21
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Re: Ray Bradbury

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Because of subject matter some artistic works are necessarily bleak.

I think Truffaut's version of 451 did justice to the book but was seriously underrated by critics. It's a fine movie and an even better book.

Something Wicked is one of the greatest fantastic novels to come out of the 20th century. I wanted to like the film version but it felt so watered down I couldn't. The book contains some real nightmare touches.

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Every word of what you wrote there, I could have said myself. I'm just saying.

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Re: Ray Bradbury

In John Sladek's Steam-Driven Boy he wrote parodies of his fellow authors.

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It was the best of times.
It was the worst of times.
It was the waiting time, before the ride to come. The airport was furiously busy. Two butterflies had just come in for a landing, and one dragonfly was taking off, while overhead a swarm of brown, honey-heavy bees flew lazy holding patterns. And right smack in the middle of it sat three humans, warming their human skins at the Indian summer sun.
The old man took a flask of rhubarb wine from one of his forty-seven pockets, tipped it and drank solemnly to the health of all his companions- not omitting a distant gopher on Runway Three. The girl wandered off to investigate this great open place, while the boy hunkered down in the sand to hear a story from his grandfather.
'The old days were good days, boy. They were people days. No one had to be afraid of anyone, ever, and folks used to even leave leave their doors unlocked. There was good people everywhere, and they were all neighbours.

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Re: Ray Bradbury

Jonathan Pryce was very good but the young Christopher Lee would have been perfect as Mr. Dark in a film version of Something Wicked.
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Re: Ray Bradbury

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Jonathan Pryce was very good but the young Christopher Lee would have been perfect as Mr. Dark in a film version of Something Wicked.
I think Jonathan Pryce killed it. I think the movie is underrated. I have read the novel and I enjoyed that too. It's a shame the movie didn't include the witch/hot air balloon scene.


I tried to find the complete 'Hall of Mirrors' scene, but couldn't find one. It has some of the best screenwriting ever imo.

Much of Bradbury's work can be found, unabridged, on Youtube, including The October Country and Something Wicked.
(I can't vouch for the quality of narration though. I haven't listened to them yet.)
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Ben, the film had its moments but overall it was too tame for me. Bradbury ended his novel on a triumphant but elegiac note. Was the father going to die from a heart attack or not? It was a fine and appropriate ending for a brilliant book. The movie was enjoyable (at times) but I had waited decades for someone to film it and I felt let down.
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Re: Ray Bradbury

By the time of that movie, the (((international moneymongers))) had completely outmaneuvered the Disney family and taken over the company.
What else is to be expected than superficial sticky commercial garbage?

Also, Something Wicked This Way Comes wouldn't translate well into film. It would be lacking no matter. The book is too poetic, too literate, dreamy. A novel's novel. Perfect and complete as it is. A story and visual feast, created specifically from words. It could not be recreated in another medium.
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Re: Ray Bradbury

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Ben, the film had its moments but overall it was too tame for me. Bradbury ended his novel on a triumphant but elegiac note. Was the father going to die from a heart attack or not? It was a fine and appropriate ending for a brilliant book. The movie was enjoyable (at times) but I had waited decades for someone to film it and I felt let down.
My enthusiasm for the film could be partially ascribed to having seen the movie before I read the novel, though I do tend to judge each on their own merits.
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Fahrenheit 451 appears to be a didactic and moralistic story, which I don't feel I need to be told either (I am already aware of the principles and multilayers of abusive censorship and propaganda control), ... I look only for weird sensations in fantastic fiction. Besides, Fahrenheit is too widely read by the masses (required reading in school, isn't it?) -- I prefer the more obscure and little known, ...
Weeeeell, ... I finally purchased Fahrenheit 451. I had peeked at the first few pages, and simply could not resist it. It was that spasmic smile stuck on the fireman's sooted black face that got me. And then that reckless daredevil behavior of stepping out in thin air (with hands in pockets!) and falling through the hole in the floor of the fire-station, to grab the pole at only the very last second before hitting the floor below.
You simply cannot deny a GREAT and PASSIONATE writer! The way a story is written is at least as important, as what the story is about. Of course, that goes without saying. But some writers are simply more ecstatic than all the rest.
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