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Old 3 Weeks Ago   #11
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Re: Absences and Inhumanity: Six Works of Abstract Horror

Should I feel bad that I don't care?

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Re: Absences and Inhumanity: Six Works of Abstract Horror

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Should I feel bad that I don't care?
You care enough to post, expecting thanks/support for you claims of "not caring" from one side in this discussion.
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Re: Absences and Inhumanity: Six Works of Abstract Horror

Land personally has ####-all to do with the alt-right. Indeed, he is a critic of them.

What is the NRx (Neoreaction) Movement? - The Atlantic

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Re: Absences and Inhumanity: Six Works of Abstract Horror

Do you even understand what his reasons for disliking alt right are? Not the same as yours or mine, to say the least.

It is pointless for some of you to try to whitewash him, when even the slightest look at his blog or twitter tells all that one needs to know.
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Re: Absences and Inhumanity: Six Works of Abstract Horror

Detailed write-up on Land and his legacy, for those not interested in pushing their heads into sand:
"Dark Enlightenment": The neo-fascist philosophy that underpins both the alt-right and Silicon Valley technophiles €” Quartz
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Re: Absences and Inhumanity: Six Works of Abstract Horror

Land's comments in the article I posted speak for themselves on why he dislikes the alt-right. Presenting facts straight from the horse's mouth isn't whitewashing. Maybe some of us just find the ####er fascinating like all of us find Ligotti, Lovecraft, and Ewers fascinating.

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Re: Absences and Inhumanity: Six Works of Abstract Horror

It seems like a fair amount of alt-right people have partially modelled their stances on his work.
It is funny to imagine his frustration at being more influential on the alt-right than anyone else.

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Re: Absences and Inhumanity: Six Works of Abstract Horror

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Maybe some of us just find the ####er fascinating like all of us find Ligotti, Lovecraft, and Ewers fascinating.
A bit unfair on Ligotti, who has no comparable political extremism.

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Re: Absences and Inhumanity: Six Works of Abstract Horror

Having deliberately avoided a great deal of contemporary philosophy for the last two years, I'm a bit surprised to hear about this Land controversy. I saw him as an interesting figure inspired by the works of Bataille, but nothing more than that to be honest. Of course, as an academic, he probably feels compelled to distinguish himself in order to stay relevant. It's certainly disingenuous, but it's how the game is played.

He would've been better off working an office job. At least that way he could've lived a more authentic lifestyle.

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Re: Absences and Inhumanity: Six Works of Abstract Horror

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Also, some works on that list predate his manifesto by quite a bit. He and his manifesto are not at all important for the sort of fiction discussed, not to mention that I doubt that some of the authors mentioned would feel right with being lumped into "genre" defined by someone like him.
It's true that other works predate Land's manifesto, but I don't think chronology has anything to do with relevance. Like I said, Land's manifesto in Chasm could potentially be of value to someone who wants to learn more about abstract horror. I certainly found it interesting when I read it--and I find Land's politics repulsive.

Additionally, authors don't get to decide how their work is interpreted--or how it's categorized--after they release it out into the world. It no longer belongs to them. As such, readers should view/interpret each work as a separate entity from the person who created at. That's just my philosophy, though. I'm sure others disagree.

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