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Re: The Handmaid's Tale (2017 TV Series)
Strict monitoring of churches and stricter rules for what can be preached in them if they are to stay tax exempt, required annotations for all religious literature that would point out its divergences from historic and scientific facts and social norms... There are things that ought, and reasonably can, be done about christians... as long as there exists sufficient will.
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I wonder who's going to be defining these social norms. Are all divergences, in every area of life, to be thus marked out?
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Re: The Handmaid's Tale (2017 TV Series)
Strict monitoring of churches and stricter rules for what can be preached in them if they are to stay tax exempt, required annotations for all religious literature that would point out its divergences from historic and scientific facts and social norms... There are things that ought, and reasonably can, be done about christians... as long as there exists sufficient will.--Hidden X
Of course,you realize it would have to apply to Islamic mosques as well. And to the ranting of Scientologists. And why not to the tedious preaching of Marxists, Liberals, Conservatives? Fine them--screw taxes!-- every time a lie is passed as truth or a debatable point is dragged up. Apparently, you really like bureaucracy. Freedom? Maybe not so much. | |||||||||||
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Druidic, "trying to reason with them (is) as pointless an activity as you can find."
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05-20-2017 | #35 | |||||||||||
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I read this thinking it was an exaggerated summary, a kind of reductio ad absurdum, of what our occult friend had written. Then I came to the attribution at the end and realised-and-remembered it was a verbatim quote. | |||||||||||
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05-20-2017 | #36 | |||||||||||
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Sensible reply: this is quite OT but I think religious organizations should only get "special" tax exempt status (as opposed to that granted all Non-Profit organizations) if it's known to perform charity works which are not exclusively missionary in nature.
Other reply: If X's proposals were enacted would NATO and associated organizations have, in the name of Religious Freedom, to bomb US military bases and political centers until that nation gave up its WMDs? | |||||||||||
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So what isn't a fraud, Mr. Cheev? Politics? Homeopathy? The Used Car Industry? Bad Hollywood movies? You can't protect people from what they want or need to believe. And are you the appointed Professor of All Things True?
One thing you can do. You can create a friendly environment for fascism by trying to regulate all truth. And although I have an insanely hot sexy lawyer (she's good at her job too) I HATE lawyers. Hate them. But I love you, Kelly. | |||||||||||
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05-20-2017 | #38 | |||||||||||
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"If the truth kicks some people's teeth out, so be it." Some people, braying about logic, do not understand the first thing about logic. If everything is a fraud, then there is certainly no truth to kick people's teeth out. "Lies should be called out on". Is there a difference between a lie and a fraud? If not, as (it seems) "everything is fraud", everything should be "called out on", whatever that means. | |||||||||||
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[Mind-#### Trigger-Warning]
Mr Cheev has broken Logic!@!@!@!@ | |||||||||||
05-21-2017 | #40 | |||||||||||
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One far more reasonable thing that could be done about christians, as well as other organized religions in US, is not allowing parents to force their underage kids to attend sermons and such. Basically, religious propaganda is being forced on children who are at their most malleable and who have no say in the matter.
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