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Old 08-04-2017   #31
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Eh, everyone's entitled to their own opinion.

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George R.R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire series, though to be honest in some ways I actually prefer the TV show to the source material: it does a better job of streamlining the story and drops a lot of the superfluous/pointless characters (and believe me, there are a ton of those).
I prefer the books, but I won't deny that the last two of them severely derailed the story and sent the pacing off-kilter. I'm hoping the final few, if they ever arrive, are of the exceptional quality of the first three.
I'm currently reading the second volume of A Storm of Swords. Enjoying the novels a lot so far. Only seen about 5 minutes of the TV series so I can't compare them. That said I was aware of the show's reputation and was surprised how mild the sex and violence is in the novels. (So far anyway, it may get more intense later.) I think the only thing that really freaked me out was Daenerys's sex scene in the first book. The scene itself isn't excessively graphic but the fact that she's only 13 and having sex with an adult was a tad disturbing.

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A Storm of Swords is the peak for me. Stunning. If The Winds of Winter is that good then it will have been worth the wait and a much needed course correction after the flawed books four and five. It's a shame most of the big events will have been spoiled by the entertaining parody TV version, but surprise isn't the most important element of good literature.

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A Storm of the Swords is the peak for me. Stunning. If The Winds of Winter is that good then it will have been worth the wait.
In a strange way I might go for Feast of Crows. It lacks the epic action of the other pieces but is very good at putting those actions in context and giving a sort of psychic overview of the people (specifically the costs of war and that many across Westeros do still speak fondly of the old crown). Also: I like the Jamie and Cersei POVs - the former is a really good, almost Tolstoyean character and the latter is just entertaining. My main criticism of it is the Iron Islands plot which is unnecessary.
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Yeah, I enjoyed those parts of Feast, as well as the Reek and Victarion parts of Dance. Still a lot to enjoy in both, and they're much more sophisticated than the silly TV cartoon version, fun as it is.

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I think the problem with Dance, aside from the sheer length, is the problem with the novel series as a whole to an extent - that is that the Eastern lands Dany finds herself in are nowhere near as coherently or evocatively depicted as the medieval world of Westeros. They are a mishmash of ancient civilizations (Babylon, Carthage, various Mesoamerican cultures) with a very Pulpy Smith/Howard feel to them; as a background they only work in virtue of the exoticism and quickly seem fake if lingered on at any length.

Hands up: in order to work it should have at least been hinted at in the earlier books but I love the Golden Company plot as read on a variation on this.
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I seem to recall that, on his long update about his progress on the sixth book back in January 2nd of 2016, Martin said that he was "months away still" (and that's if the writing went well). So how's he doing after a year and a half?

"I am still working on it, I am still months away (how many? good question), I still have good days and bad days, and that's all I care to say."

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Ha ha, yeah, he's never finishing this series. Even a cursory examination of his blog shows that he's obviously more obsessed with his Wild Cards project rather than ASOIAF. I would gain so much more respect for him if he just admitted that he lost interest in the series a long time ago (possibly around the start of the millennium, really. Consider the fact that the first 3 books came out so quickly while in the last 17 years he's only done 2, and those 2 are really just one very large book that was split in two). So many of the book purists and sycophants make excuses for the guy, saying how you can't rush art. But it seems the books that he wrote at a very quick pace are considered his best while the ones he's labored over for years now are pretty flaccid and poorly written (I think one of the more amusing complaints I've read about the evolution of the series is that the food/banquet scenes that only received a page at most in the past books have gone on to receive whole chapters in the later books).

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He's probably got some crazy fans to be afraid of if he doesn't finish. It's going to be a long wait but I don't know why people are so sure he won't survive for another decade.

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It's going to be a long wait but I don't know why people are so sure he won't survive for another decade.
He will be 69 next month and he is overweight.
Unsure how much daily exercise he does.
That said, Herman Wouk is 102 and still publishing (last book in 2015).
By that measure, Martin has 30 more years to finish, unless he suffers a coronary or heart attack.
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