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Old 08-31-2015   #71
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Re: Robert M. Price - Lovecraft controversy

Well, maybe jihadist extremism was in vogue during Lovecraft's lifetime (I really do not know anything about that); but it is a huge mistake (if it indeed was a mistake on Price's part) to call jihadist extremism "the real life horror of Red Hook."

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Re: racist anti-Muslim.

I haven't read a lot into it but I've been hearing recently about anti-Muslim hatred being or perhaps becoming similar to the average anti-Jewish hatred. That's why some might call it racist, because it's often seen to be more than just a hatred of the religion.

I might be wrong about this, as I said, I haven't read enough into it.

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I think it's fair to say Lovecraft, more or less, predicted the dark rise of Death Worshiping cults; and Isis pretty much fits the bill, I fear. Colin Wilson in his introduction to the Mind Parasites was probably the first to link "The Call of Cthulhu" with the phenomena of modern day serial killers. That was way back in the late '60's.

I've always regarded "Red Hook" as a major triumph of Lovecraft's developing style. Before this current racist obsession with HPL's work, I was NOT alone.
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Re: Robert M. Price - Lovecraft controversy

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Incidentally, the confusions of this whole area can be summed up in this sort of thing:

http://koszulki.blox.pl/resource/cthulhu.jpg
Okay. I must take a personal stance here. Q, you have misjudged this meme as something new and pastiche, yet it was an original pastiche. One that goes back to 1996?

Chaosium. They released a presidential kit (*whisper* thatibought *ahem*) for their Call of Cthulhu rpg as a lark.

But my wife and I (her first) plead guilt with our number plate frame on our Ford Mustang here in DC not reading Taxation Without Representation, but Cthulhu 4 President - Vote the Lesser Evil

In my defense (not my wife's) I read Lovecraft before he was cool. Or was that just plushy?
Well, I suppose I didn't explain exactly what I meant, but I think a thesis could be written about this kind of Cthulhu-mythos imagery in popular political discourse. I don't think I can write that thesis at present. The 'Cthulhu 4 President' is more ambiguous than the other example I gave because we're not really told what his politics are (in the other one, Yog-sothoth, or perhaps Nyarlathotep, appears to be a feminist), and it's a reasonably amusing joke. In the shadow of this image, though, Lovecraftians argue politics seemingly unaware of the ironies it highlights.

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