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Old 11-27-2017   #21
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Re: Do your inevitably lowering expectations damage your imagination?

Romanticism is one of my main goals in fiction. I unashamedly write earnest, angsty, dark stories about romance and spirituality. This age of post-modern irony and insincerity must be opposed at all costs. I have grown to ####ing hate it.

I have given up hope on relationships for myself. I'm mostly happy staying in, sipping wine and watching transgender porn while listening to Bach.

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Re: Do your inevitably lowering expectations damage your imagination?

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I have given up hope on relationships for myself. I'm mostly happy staying in, sipping wine and watching transgender porn while listening to Bach.
You, my friend, know how to live.

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Re: Do your inevitably lowering expectations damage your imagination?

James- Am I correct in saying you like confusing, surreal sensations in fiction?
How about settings that are not typical fantasy settings but completely surreal, shifting, disorientating worlds where you are enveloped in confusion? Is this only something you like in brief doses?

I've always liked oddly shaped, unpredictable landscapes with different laws of psychics.

Right now I'm blown away by Sofia Bassi paintings. I'd like to go to those places.

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Re: Do your inevitably lowering expectations damage your imagination?

I wouldn't want to speak for anyone here, but it seems that regarding the mundane-or-fantastical-settings issue, it's probably useful to consider that some commenters are artists/draughtsmen & some are prose writers.
It's one thing to write grounded in the 'here and now' & recognizable surroundings, and another thing entirely having to draw refrigerators, modern architecture, and airconditioning ducts. Who wants to draw using a ruler all day?
Natural shapes, and exaggerated natural shapes ( 'monsters') are far more satisfying to draw.
In fact, mimetic writing doesn't fall short of the reality the way mimetic drawing often does. You know, when it almost looks like a real face? But the 'almost'- that's the thing. The smaller the gap seems, the larger it is.

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Re: Do your inevitably lowering expectations damage your imagination?

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Romanticism is one of my main goals in fiction. I unashamedly write earnest, angsty, dark stories about romance and spirituality. This age of post-modern irony and insincerity must be opposed at all costs. I have grown to ####ing hate it.
Romanticism is a worthy goal but I would like to put in a good word for melodrama as well!

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Re: Do your inevitably lowering expectations damage your imagination?

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I enjoy futuristic fantasy worlds such as those in William Hope Hodgson's The Night Land or Sarban's The Sound of His Horn because they're visions people from our world experience and add to the wonder and mystery of our real world. They are fantastical vistas anybody could stumble into when at life's edges, much like the 'our world' gothic fantasies of Arthur Machen, Walter de la Mare or Shirley Jackson.
what about Clark Ashton Smith? I love Zothique, I think his stories have great value
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Re: Do your inevitably lowering expectations damage your imagination?

I avoid commercial broadcasting. Where I live, television is soul destroying.
My expectations have been low since I was in junior high.
I try to limit engagement. Over time, my disconnection has grown.
The perception that the world is a fairly crappy place, but I have to live in it, has buffered me from the "one of us" herd realities that I watch colleagues or family succumb to.
My imagination tends to run towards humor or the absurd. While it is not as vivid as in my earlier years, and it takes longer to find the better word or hone a phrase, I still believe my imagination runs off the path.
One trend I have noticed. I do a lot of face-to-face with people, and most now have narrower vocabularies then - oh - the 90s. I hear less color in own conversations and the decline concerns me.
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Re: Do your inevitably lowering expectations damage your imagination?

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I avoid commercial broadcasting. Where I live, television is soul destroying.
My expectations have been low since I was in junior high.
I try to limit engagement. Over time, my disconnection has grown.
The perception that the world is a fairly crappy place, but I have to live in it, has buffered me from the "one of us" herd realities that I watch colleagues or family succumb to.
My imagination tends to run towards humor or the absurd. While it is not as vivid as in my earlier years, and it takes longer to find the better word or hone a phrase, I still believe my imagination runs off the path.
One trend I have noticed. I do a lot of face-to-face with people, and most now have narrower vocabularies then - oh - the 90s. I hear less color in own conversations and the decline concerns me.
Allow me to post this in sympathy:


“Specialists without spirit, sensualists without heart; this nullity imagines that it has attained a level of civilization never before achieved." - Max Weber
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Re: Do your inevitably lowering expectations damage your imagination?

Avoiding broadcast media is generally a good idea. I was also on a news blackout until I broke it today due to general giddy happiness that Trump is closer to impeachment or prison.

Quote Originally Posted by Spital
what about Clark Ashton Smith? I love Zothique, I think his stories have great value
I prefer his poetry these days, but yes the Zothique and Hyperborea stories are evocative in their setting and generally worthier than his 'our world' stories.

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Re: Do your inevitably lowering expectations damage your imagination?

Perhaps the most clearly changed part of my imaginative life is reading reviews, previews and summaries.
With more experience of a genre or medium, comes a narrowed idea of what will probably happen in the thing being discussed. Reading guides used to be way more exciting because I had less realistic ideas about the things being reviewed.
So my imaginative exercise for the future is to read them (guides in particular) imagining the most fantastically unlikely versions of the discussed works. Maybe then reading reviews by someone who overrates everything will have more use.

Ghost trains at amusement parks are another interesting one to remember, being too scared to go in thinking there might be a storm of monsters flying around me. Remembering stories of people dying of a heart attack in a ghost ride.

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