Bob Dylan

[Druidic]

Nice catch, Kevin.

[Kevin]

Heh.

[Druidic]

Bob Dylan | New York Post

Dylan has always been arrogant, sometimes in a playful way. It's part of his charm lol.

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Bob Dylan | New York Post Dylan has always been arrogant, sometimes in a playful way. It's part of his charm lol.

Dylan's got yarbles to stay mum about this, that's for sure.

[gveranon]

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Bob Dylan | New York Post Dylan has always been arrogant, sometimes in a playful way. It's part of his charm lol.

Here is a another news bit about the same thing: Bob Dylans Website Scrubs Mention of Winning Nobel Prize in Literature - NBC News

I post that link only because of the last sentence: "He is known for taking his time to recognize awards."

It's also worth noting that he has, in the past few years, showed up to accept the French Legion d'Honneur,the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the Kennedy Center Honor, and an honorary doctorate conferred by the University of St. Andrews in Scotland. That's an incomplete list of his recent award haul.

It follows, I believe, that wild horses couldn't keep him away from Stockholm on December 10. He's just currently in the coy phase of his usual response.

[miguel1984]

I love this lost track by Bob Dylan:

Rebecca Black - Friday, as performed by Bob Dylan - YouTube

[Mr. Veech]

Did I already mention I love Bob Dylan? I just wanted to make that clear.

[Druidic]

Can song lyrics ever be poetry? - BBC News

Dylan --and Cohen even more -- probably deserved a Nobel. But rap guys? Not a chance.

[Mr. Veech]

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Can song lyrics ever be poetry? - BBC News Dylan --and Cohen even more -- probably deserved a Nobel. But rap guys? Not a chance.

I don't know. Call me crazy, but I actually like some hip hop. I once hated it when I was younger. I like constant repetition, so if I like a beat I want more of it, not something different.

[gveranon]

Today's news, for those who haven't seen it:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/29/entert...rnd/index.html

"Please note that no Nobel Lecture will be held. The Academy has reason to believe that a taped version will be sent at a later point."

(I love the careful wording of that!)

About whether Dylan should have been awarded the prize, I agree with the argument made by David Orr here (though I find this piece rhetorically somewhat obnoxious throughout):
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/24/b...poet.html?_r=1

Good points:

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...[P]eople don’t really think of songs as being poems, or of songwriters as being poets. No one plays an album ... or stands in line for a ... concert, and says something like, “I can’t wait to listen to these poems!” That’s true no matter how skillful the songs, since competence isn’t how we determine whether a person is participating in a particular activity. We don’t say someone isn’t playing tennis just because she plays less brilliantly than Serena Williams, nor do we say William McGonagall wasn’t a poet just because his poems were terrible. So if Bob Dylan is a poet, it follows that anyone who does basically the same thing that Dylan does should be considered a poet as well. Yet...there are very, very few people who refer to Kid Rock as a poet. That’s because when the word “poetry” is applied to Dylan, it isn’t being used to describe an activity but to bestow an honorific.... ... [This] doesn’t explain why quite a few poets and English professors wanted him anointed. ...Poetry has one primary asset: It’s the only genre automatically considered literary regardless of its quality. Popular songwriting, by contrast, has money, fame and Beyoncé. So there is an implicit trade going on when, for example, Donald Hall includes the lyrics to five Beatles songs in his anthology “The Pleasures of Poetry” (1971). But it isn’t just a straight swap in which song lyrics are granted literariness and poems take on a candle flicker of celebrity. Poetry also benefits in a subtler and more important way, because the implicit suggestion of these inclusions is that only the very best songwriters get to share space with poets. Poetry’s piggy bank may remain empty, but its cultural status is enhanced — in a way that is hugely flattering to poets and teachers of poetry, even as it is insulting to brilliant songwriters who happen to be less famous than, say, the Beatles. Which is what makes this a risky game for poets. Culture is less a series of peaceable, adjacent neighborhoods, each inhabited by different art forms, than a jungle in which various animals claim whatever territory is there for the taking. It’s possible that poets can trail along foxlike behind the massive tiger of popular music, occasionally plucking a few choice hairs from its coat both to demonstrate their superiority and to make themselves look a bit tigerish. With Dylan’s Nobel, we saw what happens when the big cat turns around.