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Weird Fiction, New & High Weird, Psycho-fantasy...
Which one from these related terms best describes fiction that you enjoy reading?
WEIRD FICTION NEW WEIRD (coined by China Mieville) HIGH WEIRD (introduced by Neddal Ayad): PSYCHO-FANTASY (coined by Stefan Grabinski) MAGIC REALISM MAGIC FICTION (introduced by DF Lewis) OMINOUS IMAGINATION (also by DF Lewis): Des writes: GHOST STORY BIZARRO FICTION | |||||||||||
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Re: Weird Fiction, New & High Weird, Psycho-fantasy...
Fascinating collation, above. Thanks.
Will have to dwell on this and percolate.... Meanwhile some more public notes on 'High Weird': http://p081.ezboard.com/High-Weird/f...picID=36.topic ==== Also 'Wordy Weird' (!) http://weirdmonger.blogspot.com/2006...rdy-weird.html http://weirdmonger.blogspot.com/2006...rdy-weird.html | |||||||||||
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Well, I've dwelt ... and I've percolated ... through a night of wakeful storms ... and despite, loving all the other 'definitions' for what I enjoy reading, I like 'High Weird' most of all.
This decision was swung by the post (shown below) on the 'Interstitial' thread linked from my previous post (which I had completely forgotten!). Meanwhile, I'd love to hear of other people's 'decisions' regarding YH's 'menu' of Weirds. des ================ 'High Fantasy' is a term that has existed for quite some considerable time. A definition I've found on the Internet: "High Fantasy is a subgenre of fantasy fiction that is set in invented or parallel worlds. These stories are serious in tone, often epic in scope, dealing with themes of grand struggle against supernatural evil forces. Other typical characteristics of high fantasy include fantastical races (such as elves and dwarves), magic, wizards, invented languages, coming-of-age themes, and multi-volume narratives." High Weird, by contrast, is one, perhaps, where similar forces work within inner space: the parallel worlds that co-exist within a single mind, thus the grand struggle crushed into a smaller space: fragments: shards; internal selves instead of elves: a diaspora that is in-turning, in-growing; the coming of no age because no age is quite right to be; self-mockery as a seriously ruthless, paradoxical, finally hopeless, attempt to be single-minded. ============= PS: YH's link for 'magic fiction' was my first attempt at exploring that. The thread here on TLO, however, is more up to date and gives (in its later stages) due reference to TL for the quote from 'Vastarien':- http://www.ligotti.net/viewtopic.php?t=872 | |||||||||||
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Re: Weird Fiction, New & High Weird, Psycho-fantasy...
I write Gothic Realism, as per this dictum from William James:
"Nature is everywhere gothic, not classic. She forms a real jungle, where all things are provisional, half-fitted to each other, and untidy." So, to be realistic, one must be gothic, n'est pas? | |||||||||||
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06-19-2007 | #5 |
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Re: Weird Fiction, New & High Weird, Psycho-fantasy...
That remark about the jungle reminds me of a childhood book entitled Where the Wild Things Are.
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Re: Weird Fiction, New & High Weird, Psycho-fantasy...
A wonderful list of the names that some apply.
New Wave Fabulism, Slipstream, Fantastique and InfernoKrusher also come to mind. For what it might be worth, I'm reasonably certain that M. John Harrison came up with "The New Weird" and that China Mieville popularized the use of the term. This may be because lots of people listen to Mr. Mieville. | |||||||||||
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Re: Weird Fiction, New & High Weird, Psycho-fantasy...
A new one was created today:
weirderature used by an author from Zencore describing the whole contents of the anthology. | |||||||||||
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Re: Weird Fiction, New & High Weird, Psycho-fantasy...
This essay on the 'New Weird' movement by Michael Cisco ...
http://www.themodernword.com/columns/cisco_001.html ...got me thinking about artistic/literary movements in general, and in particular, how and why they form. For example, do movements start with just one or two people who have a new and interesting idea who are then imitated or improved upon by others? Or is it more a case of where conditions are just right, say, politically, socially, or technologically for a new movement to take form, and so it does. Perhaps it's the artistic sensitive types who can read and decipher the aether, distill the zeitgeist of a given age, and give it voice. Maybe this is why seemly similar works seem to appear almost spontaneously and often independently of each other. I've noticed this with music genres too. | |||||||||||
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01-10-2008 | #9 | |||||||||||
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Re: Weird Fiction, New & High Weird, Psycho-fantasy...
There's something Jungian about art movements as if we all start them, a few doing it consciously, the rest quite unconsciously.
I started 'Zeroism' in 1967. | |||||||||||
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10-05-2008 | #10 | |||||||||||
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Re: Weird Fiction, New & High Weird, Psycho-fantasy...
To everybody interrested in the New Weird I strongly recommend Ann and Jeff VanderMeer's anthology The New Weird. http://tachyonpublications.com/book/New_Weird.html?Session_ID=new
It features stories by writers and influences of the New Weird (including Ligotti's A Soft Voice...), different opinions on the genre (includion Cisco's essay from above) and a New Weird Round Robin by newer authors. | |||||||||||
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