THE NIGHTMARE NETWORK
Go Back   THE NIGHTMARE NETWORK > Miscellanea > Rants & Ravings
Home Forums Content Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Contagion Members Media Diversion Info Register
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes Translate
Old 08-26-2013   #21
Nolon's Avatar
Nolon
Mannikin
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 28
Quotes: 0
Points: 1,234, Level: 20 Points: 1,234, Level: 20 Points: 1,234, Level: 20
Level up: 34% Level up: 34% Level up: 34%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Re: Walter de la Mare Strangers and Pilgrims

This thread inspired me to get the 2 volume collection of Walter de La Mare's work mentioned by Draugen, Short Stories 1895-1926 and Short Stories 1927-1957. I just received the books today, can't wait to read them!
Nolon is offline   Reply With Quote
Thanks From:
Druidic (08-26-2013)
Old 08-26-2013   #22
Druidic's Avatar
Druidic
Grimscribe
Threadstarter
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 2,366
Quotes: 0
Points: 65,364, Level: 100 Points: 65,364, Level: 100 Points: 65,364, Level: 100
Level up: 0% Level up: 0% Level up: 0%
Activity: 100% Activity: 100% Activity: 100%
Re: Walter de la Mare Strangers and Pilgrims

Nolan, I hope you find as much pleasure in Walter de la Mare’s works as I do. If this thread inspired you to seek out his work I’m genuinely pleased!
Druidic is offline   Reply With Quote
Thanks From:
Nolon (08-27-2013)
Old 08-27-2013   #23
Murony_Pyre's Avatar
Murony_Pyre
Chymist
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 388
Quotes: 0
Points: 13,309, Level: 79 Points: 13,309, Level: 79 Points: 13,309, Level: 79
Level up: 60% Level up: 60% Level up: 60%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Re: Walter de la Mare Strangers and Pilgrims

My copies of de la Mare's A Beginning and Other Stories and The Riddle.

Came across these on holiday this summer and was excited to find them in such great shape (better than they look from the picture).
Even though I already have Strangers and Pilgrims and do dip into it from time to time, I am always on the look out for one that can match the feeling after first reading Seaton's Aunt in Aickman's first Fontana.
I'm often afraid that that particular Fontana Ghost Book spoiled many a writer's work, so to speak, for me by revealing the crown jewels within the oeuvre of each of the writers present in it (excepting Aickman himself, of course)...I doubt that there is a better Jane Howard ghostly story than "Three Miles Up" or by L.P. Hartley, for that matter, than his "The Travelling Grave"--or--more fairly--if there are better, I've yet to find them...it is surely a pleasure making the attempt though, I must say!
I would like to qualify my love of Aickman's "The Trains". While I feel that it is certainly not his best strange story (that honor goes to Ravissante, the first story I read by Aickman!$^@&^$!;)) it is so unlike--yet so like--his other work--it is goddamn slow and then goddamn terrifying and then it is over---quite like train travel?---it must have had a special place in his heart for him to have included in the first of his Fontana books and it does compliment Ms. Howard's story rather nicely for obvious reasons.

Gone a little off topic but so it goes...

Last edited by Murony_Pyre; 03-21-2015 at 10:34 AM..
Murony_Pyre is offline   Reply With Quote
Thanks From:
Nolon (08-27-2013)
Old 08-27-2013   #24
Druidic's Avatar
Druidic
Grimscribe
Threadstarter
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 2,366
Quotes: 0
Points: 65,364, Level: 100 Points: 65,364, Level: 100 Points: 65,364, Level: 100
Level up: 0% Level up: 0% Level up: 0%
Activity: 100% Activity: 100% Activity: 100%
Re: Walter de la Mare Strangers and Pilgrims

Actually, Murony_Pyre,I don’t think we’re that far off topic. After all, Aickman was influenced by de la Mare and his best stories are quite remarkable. And I agree that “The Trains” is a strange and haunting piece that has a tremendous power…almost in spite of itself! For some reason, “The Cicerones”, (which I first read in a fine August Derleth anthology), is one of my favorite Aickman stories. It’s certainly not one of his major works but is, in my view, a near perfect short story, reminding me quite a bit of de la Mare.
Druidic is offline   Reply With Quote
2 Thanks From:
Murony_Pyre (08-27-2013), Nolon (08-27-2013)
Old 02-19-2014   #25
Knygathin's Avatar
Knygathin
Mystic
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 123
Quotes: 0
Points: 3,938, Level: 41 Points: 3,938, Level: 41 Points: 3,938, Level: 41
Level up: 92% Level up: 92% Level up: 92%
Activity: 7% Activity: 7% Activity: 7%
Re: Walter de la Mare Strangers and Pilgrims

I haven't the faintest hunch what's going on in "Promise at Dusk". Did he marry the ghost? Did he force her to promise to marry him, or unless, he would keep the little revolver and reveal to the police that she had killed someone? It does not make sense to me at all.
Knygathin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2014   #26
Druidic's Avatar
Druidic
Grimscribe
Threadstarter
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 2,366
Quotes: 0
Points: 65,364, Level: 100 Points: 65,364, Level: 100 Points: 65,364, Level: 100
Level up: 0% Level up: 0% Level up: 0%
Activity: 100% Activity: 100% Activity: 100%
Re: Walter de la Mare Strangers and Pilgrims

OK, what I got from it: He met the woman who was to become his wife in that carriage. She was deeply troubled and considering suicide. He made her promise not to commit such an act. But was it the flesh and blood woman he met or an astral projection of her troubled soul? In any case, it ends, I believe, with a new life brought into the world.
I read it a long time ago in an August Derleth anthology and my memory may not be completely trustworthy.
My main problem with Strangers and Pilgrims is a lot of stories I would have loved to reread—“The Tree”, “The Wharf”, “Missing”, “The Three Friends, “A Mote”—weren’t included in favor of a LARGE number of stories I find considerably less impressive. I’m not at all sure I would have included “Promise at Dusk.” Actually, I know I wouldn't have.

Last edited by Druidic; 02-20-2014 at 08:48 AM..
Druidic is offline   Reply With Quote
2 Thanks From:
Knygathin (02-20-2014), Murony_Pyre (02-20-2014)
Old 02-20-2014   #27
Knygathin's Avatar
Knygathin
Mystic
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 123
Quotes: 0
Points: 3,938, Level: 41 Points: 3,938, Level: 41 Points: 3,938, Level: 41
Level up: 92% Level up: 92% Level up: 92%
Activity: 7% Activity: 7% Activity: 7%
Re: Walter de la Mare Strangers and Pilgrims

That, Druidic, I think is a logical and excellent interpretation. Then, I guess he met an astral projection of her future lonely unhappy self, and helped her change the course of her life. And the crying in the end is from their baby.

I got stuck on a thought that women usually don't commit suicide with a gun. And future projection didn't occur to me at all. Clearly not my field.

Interesting, all in all.

According to The Internet Speculative Fiction Database "Promise at Dusk" was never published in book form before.

Personally I am happy with the selection in Strangers and Pilgrims, which is complemented wonderfully by the other stories in The Collected Tales of Walter de la Mare (Knopff) and Eight Tales.
Knygathin is offline   Reply With Quote
2 Thanks From:
Druidic (02-20-2014), Murony_Pyre (02-20-2014)
Old 02-20-2014   #28
Murony_Pyre's Avatar
Murony_Pyre
Chymist
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 388
Quotes: 0
Points: 13,309, Level: 79 Points: 13,309, Level: 79 Points: 13,309, Level: 79
Level up: 60% Level up: 60% Level up: 60%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Re: Walter de la Mare Strangers and Pilgrims

Quote Originally Posted by Knygathin View Post
... the selection in Strangers and Pilgrims, which is complemented wonderfully by the other stories in The Collected Tales of Walter de la Mare (Knopff) and Eight Tales.
Is that right? Just a few repeats? or better none? Please let me know, as I'm planning to go on a de la Mare binge in a few weeks; during which time I will complete Strangers and Pilgrims, not that I'll be left at a loose end for reading material or anything--just curious.

Last edited by Murony_Pyre; 03-21-2015 at 10:36 AM..
Murony_Pyre is offline   Reply With Quote
Thanks From:
Druidic (02-20-2014)
Old 02-20-2014   #29
Knygathin's Avatar
Knygathin
Mystic
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 123
Quotes: 0
Points: 3,938, Level: 41 Points: 3,938, Level: 41 Points: 3,938, Level: 41
Level up: 92% Level up: 92% Level up: 92%
Activity: 7% Activity: 7% Activity: 7%
Re: Walter de la Mare Strangers and Pilgrims

Quote Originally Posted by Murony_Pyre View Post
Is that right? Just a few repeats? or better none? Please let me know, as I'm planning to go on a de la Mare binge in a few weeks; during which time I will complete <i>Strangers and Pilgrims</i>, not that I'll be left at a loose end for reading material or anything--just curious.
There are some repeats. But several stories are complementary. You get a lot that way, but not all stories. Beautiful books, all three. I suggest you go to http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?135 and compare. If you want all, you should probably get Short Stories Vol 1 Short Stories 1895 - 1926 by Walter de la Mare and Vol 2 Walter De La Mare, Short Stories 1927-1956 by Walter de la Mare and Vol 3 of children's stories Short Stories III by Walter de la Mare. Or, if you want to read the original editions, go for a hunting spree that may last for a few years, or take up the rest of your life.

Last edited by Knygathin; 02-20-2014 at 02:02 PM..
Knygathin is offline   Reply With Quote
Thanks From:
Druidic (02-20-2014)
Old 02-20-2014   #30
Knygathin's Avatar
Knygathin
Mystic
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 123
Quotes: 0
Points: 3,938, Level: 41 Points: 3,938, Level: 41 Points: 3,938, Level: 41
Level up: 92% Level up: 92% Level up: 92%
Activity: 7% Activity: 7% Activity: 7%
Re: Walter de la Mare Strangers and Pilgrims

Quote Originally Posted by Knygathin View Post
... Then, I guess he met an astral projection of her future lonely unhappy self, ...
First I had the impression it was an old lady in the carriage. Now I see it is probably not so. It seems more to be the woman herself, rather than a ghost. Ambiguous ... with De la Mare's mystical, spiritually perceptive depth on reality.
Knygathin is offline   Reply With Quote
Thanks From:
Druidic (02-20-2014)
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
mare, pilgrims, strangers, walter

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Modern writers similar to Robert Aickman and Walter de la Mare? James General Discussion 13 11-08-2016 01:53 PM
RE: Walter de la Mare's Poetry? Gnosticangel General Discussion 4 10-25-2016 01:58 PM
Walter de la Mare Ghost stories on BBC Radio 4 Extra Stu Other News 1 04-11-2014 05:28 PM
A Strangers Thought constable CATHR Online Comments 9 08-21-2011 04:57 AM
"Strangers Die Every Day" - Butthole Surfers Sam YouTube Selections 0 06-25-2009 08:13 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:14 AM.



Style Based on SONGS OF A DEAD DREAMER as Published by Silver Scarab Press
Design and Artwork by Harry Morris
Emulated in Hell by Dr. Bantham
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Template-Modifications by TMS