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For all his defensiveness, bellicosity and dogmatic foot-stomping re the Weird, I don't Joshi is the kind of person who would change his opinion on an author's merits based on that individual's personal misdemeanors. He strikes me as honest at least.
I'm reasonably certain Joshi was put off by the cliquishness of Barron's readers and circle of writer friends before the A Mountain Walked issue. Possibly due to their reaction to his review of The Beautiful Thing that Awaits Us All? Maybe I'm pulling that out of thin air, but I remember Joshi complaining about new weird writers being put on pedestals. I also remember being somewhat surprised to see that Barron was included in A Mountain Walked because of Joshi's comments on the matter up to that point.

It's also worth noting that Joshi has continued to champion John Langan, who might be considered part of this so-called "clique."

So, while I don't really see the point of Joshi's exceedingly vitriolic "satire," I don't think it's motivated by personal animus.
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Re: Looming Low Available for Pre-order

I think Keene is one of the most popular authors of the really commercial stuff that didn't break through into the mainstream. I think he even had a reasonably popular forum. He has a novel co-written by Nick Mamatas.

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Re: Looming Low Available for Pre-order

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I think Keene is one of the most popular authors of the really commercial stuff that didn't break through into the mainstream. I think he even had a reasonably popular forum. He has a novel co-written by Nick Mamatas.
So he was equivalent - in terms of success - to Ramsey Campbell back in the day?
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I'm not sure. I don't recall seeing his books in British shops but maybe he makes up for it elsewhere.

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Re: Looming Low Available for Pre-order

I'd say that would be a pretty fair comparison. In popularity and productivity, if nothing else.
By the way, given how some of you had some objection to Joshi's mixing of his wordview with his judgment of fiction before, I'm surprised that there were no complaints about how large a part of that review was focused on theology... And that is not even going into sheer silliness of over-analyzing philosophy advocated by some side character in a gory pulp novel that never had any pretensions of being anything other than a piece of disposable fun. Also, I don't think that Keene is even religious himself, nor had I ever saw any claims of his fiction being preachy prior to this Joshi review.
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Re: Looming Low Available for Pre-order

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A simple 'Keene's oeuvre consists of disposable Pulp horror adventure paperbacks' would have sufficed. I'd never heard of the man before. I can understand why Joshi would feel the need to give King (back in the day) the kind of treatment he gave Keene if only because the former was so popular that Horror/Weird Fiction risked being identified with his work. Keene, as far as I know, never had any literary pretensions.
I think it's fair to go on at greater length about the flaws of a smaller writer as long as it's constructive.
Ridiculing famous creators is bad form too even if it's less likely to hurt them.

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Re: Looming Low Available for Pre-order

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I think he'd prefer people kept and reread his books. How many people call their own work disposable?

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Re: Looming Low Available for Pre-order

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I think he'd prefer people kept and reread his books. How many people call their own work disposable?
I had meant that as an assessment on Joshi's part not a self-description from Keene i.e. that the latter wrote 'thriller' horror novels with no literary aspirations ('holiday reads'). I can understand the concern on Joshi's part that self-conscious literati types might be prone to dismiss Horror/Weird fiction. For Keene himself there is nothing wrong with writing material for light entertainment - expecting them to provide deep literary or philosophical insights is like expecting a coffee machine to shine one's boots though.
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I have now finished my review of each story in real-time -
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