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Old 08-15-2016   #11
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Re: Bloodborne and H.P. Lovecraft

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This game is an incredible piece of work. And unlike many other games that draw from Lovecraft, it doesn't just pull deities from the mythos and place them into their game. The aesthetic and backstory and lore is incredibly original, and Lovecraft's cosmic horror is a big influence on it, but still one of many.

It is pretty much a combination of the dark fantasy aesthetic of Dark Souls with Victorian/Gothic horror (the architecture, and the major theme of werewolves and transformations) and Lovecraft's trademark cosmic horror (alien gods, birthing abominations to humans, etc)
I second this. Bloodborne is pretty much the equivalent of a work of art in the world of video games.





Soma, a game created by the developers of Amnesia, is another one fans of Lovecraft and Ligotti ought to look into. It's a "survival horror" game concerned with the illusory nature of the self.


The ending of Soma is devastating and will consume most of your thoughts for a week or so.
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Re: Bloodborne and H.P. Lovecraft

This might as well be a From Software thread.

I consider myself old-fashioned, but I think it's possible for a video game, if it's in the right hands, to be just as powerful as any book.

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Re: Bloodborne and H.P. Lovecraft

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I consider myself old-fashioned, but I think it's possible for a video game, if it's in the right hands, to be just as powerful as any book.
I totally agree, Mr. Veech. One of the things I absolutely love about living in this time is getting to see the way that a handful of Japanese and American game designers are producing a small group of games that can easily stand alongside the greatest literary works devoted to the strange and fantastic. For me, Hidetaka Miyazaki is a visionary who has successfully transplanted the old Anglo-American pulp tradition of adventure in fantastical worlds into the medium of the videogame and has produced a series of absolute masterpieces. Miyazaki is for me in the same ranks as Ligotti or Poe or Lovecraft or Clark Ashton Smith.

Also in the same ranks for me is Fumito Ueda, the designer behind Ico and Shadow of the Colossus, both of which manage to tell original and quite powerful tales of the fantastic. His games really do rise to very high levels of aesthetic quality such that calling them art isn't an insult to art.

The only other game that shines for me as a masterpiece of storytelling is Planescape: Torment. It's like Clark Ashton Smith and Samuel Beckett got together and wrote the dialogue for a computer role-playing game. Even though it's a video game, I always have a tendency to rank it alongside seminal novels of the fantasy tradition like the Gormenghast trilogy, The Lord of the Rings, and The Worm Ouroboros, and I always think of it as the greatest dark fantasy novel ever written, disguised as a game.
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Re: Bloodborne and H.P. Lovecraft

I'm not really a gamer, as video games were always something I never got into beyond occasional diversion. But I can very much appreciate that games like Bloodborne and similar type immersive horror games are made. From what I've seen of the gameplay on YouTube, it combines some great gothic and Lovecraftian horror elements.

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Re: Bloodborne and H.P. Lovecraft

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I'm not really a gamer, as video games were always something I never got into beyond occasional diversion. But I can very much appreciate that games like Bloodborne and similar type immersive horror games are made. From what I've seen of the gameplay on YouTube, it combines some great gothic and Lovecraftian horror elements.
Like Pharpetron, I see no reason not to place Miyazaki alongside visionaries such as Ligotti and Lovecraft. Games like Bloodborne and Dark Souls are certainly diversions, but they're also great examples of sublimation.
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Re: Bloodborne and H.P. Lovecraft

@ Pharpetron

Speaking of Shadow of the Colossus, this is probably the most memorable moment I've ever had in a video game:


The whole game had a very Greek tragedy feel to it.

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Yeah, I really like a lot of the Buddhist themes presented throughout the games as well. The Undead Curse seems very similar to the idea of Samsara.
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Re: Bloodborne and H.P. Lovecraft

Yeah, I'd agree that the first Deus Ex has a visionary quality (would say the same about the System Shock and Thief series as well... mainly the first two Thief games that is). It's off-topic and there's nothing Lovecraftian about his work but I'd add Hideo Kojima's Metal Gear Solid series to that list: outside of the first Deus Ex it's pretty much the closest that gaming can get to the work of Thomas Pynchon (perhaps even Pynchon was aware of this: in his novel Bleeding Edge he gives a shout-out to Kojima and also makes reference to the Deus Ex theme song).

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Re: Bloodborne and H.P. Lovecraft

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It's a very good game with nice lore. The first time I entered the bottom level of Old Yharnam it had a jarring and uncanny effect, considering the top tower was more vibrant:


[You can see "The Dunwich Horror" influences]

The boss fight with the Blood-Starved Beast in the Old Yharnam cathedral was a great moment in the game. Granted, my particular favorite moment involves the quest line with the "suspicious beggar", which is genuinely one of the disturbing things I've witnessed in a game.

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I love the Bloodstarved Beast. So a crazy idea for a boss. Literally a bloody, flayed werewolf with flapping flesh everywhere, rushing you non-stop and poisoning you, screeching all the while. Its terrifying.

The Suspicious Beggar is cool too. Its sort of one of FromSoft's archetypes, there is usually a character who will go and kill other characters in the game if you let them. But this one evolves into a crazy powerful werewolf. The Abhorrent Beast boss fight in a certain chalice dungeon is one of the hardest boss fights in the entire series in my opinion. Just plain brutal.
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Re: Bloodborne and H.P. Lovecraft

I don't think video games get any better than the first three Silent Hill titles. Most horror games seem uninspired and uninvolving in comparison.

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