Never Again Anthology...

Allyson

Mystic
Never Again is an attempt to voice the collective revulsion of writers in the weird fiction genre against political attitudes that stifle compassion and deny our collective human inheritance. The imagination is crucial to an understanding both of human diversity and of common ground. Weird fiction is often stigmatised as a reactionary and ignorant genre - we know better. The anthology will be published by Gray Friar Press in September 2010, and edited by Allyson Bird and Joel Lane.​

News of this new project can be found here.

http://grayfriarpress.com/catalogue/neveragain.html
 
There are some great writers in this anthology, and the premise of the theme is a worthy one. Thanks for bringing this to our attention, Allyson!
 
Great to hear that, Joe.:)

I've read through the anthology quite a few times now and each time I'm struck by just how powerful the stories are.
 
There are some writers in the table of contents with whom I am not familiar. Are any of them "people of color" as they say? If not, it's a bit odd to me to have a white-only anthology "against racism."
 
Hi Nick.

Fair question – but we are focusing on UK writers in the weird fiction genre, with only a couple of well-known US writers whom we asked for reprints, and one Australian writer whom Ally happened to be in touch with. There are relatively few non-white writers of horror or supernatural fiction in the UK, and it happened that none of the writers whom we targeted on account of their fiction were non-white. Would you have preferred us to target and include writers on the basis of their skin colour, not their writing? I think that anything from two to five of the contributors may well be Jewish, but their work was not selected for that reason.

In the USA, it would be a different story. Also, had we targeted black, Asian and Oriental cultural organisations in the UK to ask for stories on these themes, the book would have been very different – and someone else might do that. We were working within the weird fiction subculture in the UK. Ours is not a definitive book and we'd be more than happy to see others that approached the themes differently. We would, however, ask any critic to read the book we have put together before deciding that we have failed to produce something worthwhile in literary terms.
 
Hi Nick.
There are relatively few non-white writers of horror or supernatural fiction in the UK, and it happened that none of the writers whom we targeted on account of their fiction were non-white. Would you have preferred us to target and include writers on the basis of their skin colour, not their writing?

Well, Joel, I suppose I'd point out that those aren't the only choices one has when editing an anthology. Either writing or color is hardly a choice one need make because there are plenty of excellent writers of color, both famed and obscure. The UK seems to me to have a large number of wonderful writers of color—Zadie Smith, Monica Ali, Nadeem Aslam, etc. Helen Oyeyemi has even written a gothic already.

I do understand that the UK demographics are different than US demographics, but I wonder why, for example, the one American was Joe Lansdale and not, say, Tananarive Due. Another possibility would be Nalo Hopkinson—Jamaican-born and currently living in Canada, she has a particular connection to the UK via the Commonwealth.

Also, had we targeted black, Asian and Oriental cultural organisations in the UK to ask for stories on these themes, the book would have been very different

Sounds like that would have been a good idea to me. It would be interesting to see who could write weird fiction amongst those who aren't ordinarily invited to do so.

We would, however, ask any critic to read the book we have put together before deciding that we have failed to produce something worthwhile in literary terms.

One supposes that the same request could be made of you. You're a political sort, Joel. I'm sure you understand that community outreach is important. Is it so that there are so few writers of color of weird fiction in the UK that none were worth soliciting? Well, there are solutions to that. I hinted at a couple already and here's another possibility: open submissions to writers in general for a few weeks, with a couple months advance notice. Then you would have the opportunity to read the work of writers (of all colors) not already in your Rolodex rather than discounting the quality of their work in the first instance. Perhaps then the book would have been a more obviously complete statement, from the first page—the table of contents—on in.
 
Hi Nick.

I won't argue with any of that. We stayed within the UK weird fiction (and mostly small press) subculture. We're proud of the book we've put together, but other approaches would have been perfectly viable and certainly different. Feel free to pursue your own take on the theme: we don't own it. Politically our perspective is pluralistic – there's no single 'correct' strand of analysis, rather a constellation of healthy approaches in which we hope to occupy our own place.

Best wishes,

Joel
 
The forthcoming charity anthology NEVER AGAIN (edited by Allyson Bird & Joel Lane) has this on its sales page:-

“Never Again is an attempt to voice the collective revulsion of writers in the weird fiction genre against political attitudes that stifle compassion and deny our collective human inheritance. The imagination is crucial to an understanding both of human diversity and of common ground. Weird fiction is often stigmatised as a reactionary and ignorant genre – we know better.”

The weird fiction genre is specifically mentioned. Can anyone ‘describe’ this genre?

Most of the writers in the book seem to be Horror writers.

This is relevant perhaps to my WEIRD LITERATURE question here on my blog (forgive this connection): http://nullimmortalis.wordpress.com/2010/09/01/what-is-weird-literature-and-who-represents-it/


NB: Never Again – Gray Friar Press: http://www.grayfriarpress.com/catalogue/neveragain.html
 
The weird fiction genre is specifically mentioned. Can anyone ‘describe’ this genre?

Most of the writers in the book seem to be Horror writers.

It has been my impression that Weird fiction is Horror, but Horror is not necessarily Weird. Weird fiction seems to be a somewhat vaguely defined genre. I think it often contains elements of genres other than Horror but is always horrific to some degree and usually contains some violation of the perceived natural laws of the universe. I think perhaps Weird fiction is defined to a large extent by the feeling it conveys, like Horror is, whereas Science Fiction, for example, is defined more by its subject matter. I think possibly one must read a large number of the writings that are said to be Weird--which I have, but still I don't feel up to the task of describing the feeling of Weirdness--to gain an understanding of what Weirdness is.
 
Thanks, I agree with that, from my own point of view.

I am sure this 'Never Again' anthology is going to be a great one (one I intend to real-time review when I get my pre-ordered copy) - but I am fascinated by its being called 'Weird Fiction', since there are many competing definitions of Weird and New Weird, to my mind - and the book seems (from the authors' names alone) 90% of it as the pure Horror genre tradition, as I've grown to know it since I started reading it in the Sixties. Not Weird as it is now seeming to grow to be as Steampunk and SF and Slipstream and Interstitial, not Lovecraft and Ligotti. Or am I wrong?

On my new blog thread mentioned above, I am campaigning for Weird Weird....

PS: "Weird Weird" was first coined (by me?) in 2004 here:
http://nightshadebooks.com/discus/messages/8/2128.html
 
Not Weird as it is now seeming to grow to be as Steampunk and SF and Slipstream and Interstitial, not Lovecraft and Ligotti. Or am I wrong?

Up until VanDemeer's anthology started appearing on my radar this year, I've considered "weird" to encapsulate writers like Ligotti, or those influenced by the European traditions. Perhaps Aickmanesque fiction as well, though those tales might further be broken into "strange" -- the term Aickman himself preferred.

Thus, I think of Mark Samuels work as "weird" where I would not say the same about Joel Lane's work. I enjoy them both, of course, so really the terms mean nothing beyond a short-hand for grouping authors together. I might just as well call them both "Strantzasian" as they are bound by my enjoyment of the work.
 
Up until VanDemeer's anthology started appearing on my radar this year, I've considered "weird" to encapsulate writers like Ligotti, or those influenced by the European traditions. Perhaps Aickmanesque fiction as well, though those tales might further be broken into "strange" -- the term Aickman himself preferred.

Thus, I think of Mark Samuels work as "weird" where I would not say the same about Joel Lane's work. I enjoy them both, of course, so really the terms mean nothing beyond a short-hand for grouping authors together. I might just as well call them both "Strantzasian" as they are bound by my enjoyment of the work.

I think if Samuels is Weird, so is Lane.

But here is New Weird:
[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Weird[/ame]
 
It seems to this humble reader that the "New Weird" movement is simply one that groups writers of a certain moment and visibility level together. Perhaps I'm mistaken, but the "old" weird is generally accepted to represent the European strain of writers from the past, and thus this "new weird" movement has simply opted the name.

But perhaps I'm wrong and there are antecedents. I try not to pay too much attention to it. After all, you and I disagree on whether Samuels and Lane are both weird or not, and really it doesn't matter, does it? Isn't the work more important? After all, naming movements while they're happening seems a bit premature, doesn't it?
 
Pleased to read that this anthology had a good launch at the BFS in the last few days. But disappointed that I haven't received my pre-ordered copy - which I intended to real-time review. Meanwhile, I note someone else has been able to review it, though: http://beyondfiction.wordpress.com/ Pleased it's a good review, however. :)
 
Hi Des. The pre-ordered copies are now being sent out – the book only reached us just before the launch. The review you refer to was, of course, of a PDF. Your copy will reach you very soon.
 
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