Technical meditation

Amusing video clip in which the Dalai Lama pretends to say "fuck it" by mistake:

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I would agree, anyway, though possibly make qualifications (e.g., that it's not about forgetting differences so much as embracing them, which seems to be very difficult).

There's an oft-repeated argument by atheists that basically goes: "Well, there are so many religions, and they all claim to be the only true religion, and they can't all be the only true religion."

And the inference or implication is that, therefore, they must all be rubbish. Of course, this doesn't follow logically, but it's clear, when faced with the small-mindedness of sectarianism and so on, why such a conclusion is tempting.

I would have thought that we are at least at a point in history where enforced ideological conformity would be considered grossly passe (I would hope that is the case, anyway), and that in the same way a person, in order to be a person, must be an individual, a creed, to be a creed, must be an individual, and in both cases they can have something to 'contribute to the conversation' without it having to be the whole debating society thing we were taught at school, where you pick sides and the team with the best or most aggressive sophists wins.

In other words, I would hope there is a way of converging that also preserves what is valuable in the individual (person or creed).
 

Weird, I just finished reading 'When You Hear the Singing, You Will Know It Is Time", and almost couldn't fall asleep, because I kept thinking of leathery trap doors!

I too have a "bi-polar" practice of art, listening to extremely dark and hateful music and then listening to, not exactly happy music, but melancholy, wistful, or dreamy music. I find that I usually enjoy the latter more after a purgative session of black metal ( which can be melancholic, but I like the dissonant stuff ) or heavy industrial. Nothing is the only band I've heard that can blend heaviness with melancholy shoegaze, and their lyrics are inspired by Baudelaire, so of course I'm obsessed with them. They are the "bridge" between these types of music for me.

The poem QCrisp posted earlier, about nothing being good or bad in itself, is as good an explanation as any for why I burst out laughing while reading Ligotti stories, even though I'm approaching the inevitably horrifying ending. I find that his removal of morality from horror opens new possibilities in the genre.

Speaking of paganism and shamanism, I wonder what you all think of the Santo Daime church, which is ostensibly Christian. It looks like a weird blend of Protestant, Catholic, and indigenous worship. This Nat Geo doc is kind of sensationalist, but the footage of their ceremonies is interesting. Considering what they are ingesting, its a miracle that their robes remain white! I know theres a branch in my state, I may check them out soon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi4sna7yVoo
 
To me, Zen and Christianity are closer to Zoroastrianism.

Some interesting historical connections here (Bodhidharma was Persian? Mind blown), but based on real life experience with Zen and Christianity and fairly extensive reading of their material, it'd be a stretch for me to say that they have much common ground. Or at least, the actual Chinese and Japanese mindset seems pretty far removed from anything Zoroastrian, much less Christian.

I'm thinking of something like the mindset of Ikkyū Sōjun, which seems to me to be fundamentally pagan in the same way that the ancient Greeks were. His joys are essentially profane joys (getting drunk, performing oral sex on teenage girls, etc.) and are sharply felt. But he was aware that humans were walking corpses, or as he put it "skeletons."

Another quote,

"Nature's a killer, I won't sing to it."

There's no sense of redemption and no real Manichaean/Zoroastrian dualism either. The Zen mindset isn't one of Good vs Evil or Light vs Dark.

The Chinese sages don't seem to be on the same page either, and neither does Lao-Tze - about the closest possible parallel I can imagine would be the Tao's resolution of opposed elemental forces and the Zurvan concept you mentioned. It seems like a bit of a stretch, but there might be something there.

Very interested re: the pre-Islamic artifacts.
 
Justin, on Norse paganism, or to any others, what the heck is going on here?

old Norwegian wooden churches

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cA_kW92-Oo

Angkor wat , the biggest baddest most megalithic of megaliths . Obscenely huge.

Nagas in Cambodia = Viking dragons .

Viking ship dragons = Water serpents
 

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When I say that viking ships are naga, I don't mean to imply that there is a 'parent' culture to a subsidiary or 'child' culture. I simply mean to say that the influence is there. People of Jesus' time would not recognize Christianity today as Christian at all. Nor would medieval Christians. A lot of what the church is doing wrong is wanting to reverse the tide of history which is why I always find the most interesting stuff kind of at the margins. If Christ came back metaphorically or however you think of it within our period of time he would have fronted a metal band like My Dying Bride or Virgin Black or incarnated as Buddy Christ in the film Dogma. I respect it when people use Christianity like a big toy chest. I find Ghost In The Shell super Christian, it was supposed to be, and I find C S Lewis to be exceptionally lame. I kind of want to involve myself in Christianity just to stir shit up. It's such a dominant effect on my culture that it is insane to be apart from it festering in more and more fundamentalism. As we get more liberal and walk away from institutionalized religions, those institutions get more and more perverse and out of step from the present time. In my estimation we can't really ever walk away. I think we have to roll with it. It's the only hope I'd have of affecting real change funeral by funeral marriage by marriage. :o
 
The people who built big stuff would have come from all over. Compared drawings. Without probably even being able to communicate together at all. I think that's how freemasonry is amazing as an occult society is this way they define religious history by dudes who went around building stuff, because that's logically how religion must have been shared around. Angkor Wat is weird because its a lot easier to tell how it is made than other things I have seen.
 
I caught this on TV today and thought I would post it. It's a great documentary about nazi mystical ideology that gets a shit ton of currency today in the new age , still, without people really being very much aware of it. For more on this idea, and to inoculate yourself against their elitism, recommended read:

A Strange Manuscript Found In A Copper Cylinder by James De Mille, I also recommend watching The Night Watchman's Journal on Watch Korean Drama Free | Korean Movies Online & Telenovela | DramaFever | KDrama

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4ooc4vhJuk

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ok something they're saying in this documentary which is actually really wrong is that the nazis travelled to Tibet and didn't find evidence of "aryan" culture, which is bullshit, they must have found a lot of evidence there that would have fit in to that ideology

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surprised the documentary didn't touch on this but it must be because the Tibetan government is nazi

oh and of course,

they would have found the Death's Head all over the ceremonial hat worn by the state Tibetan oracles

and!

Tibet, so says this documentary, has apparently not said much about their views on nazism, probably because they are nazis

and!

the U.S. government talking to the Dalai Lama all the freaking time, count on them being nazis too

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this guy who went to go visit Tibet and investigate there returned to high honours and awards given to him by the nazi party for his discoveries. curious that the documentary casually overlooks that.. hmm..
 
Sorry to digress again, but I just realized that my "mystical" vision of galaxies and a blue face was not a Buddha, but actually Dr. Manhattan
 

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