The Nightmare Network

ElHI

Mystic
The first thing that came to my mind when I read The Nightmare Network from My Work Is Not Yet Done could was that this story could have been written by WSB.

I don't know if it was a conscious homage by Ligotti to one of his favourite writers, but the structure of the story is definitely WSB, and I think it would make a great text to expand by using cut-ups (as many TL's stories would in fact).

Oh, and by the way, the pseudonym I use (ElHI) is strongly WSB-related. Anyone guess in what way?
 
ElHI";p="1502 said:
I don't know if it was a conscious homage by Ligotti to one of his favourite writers, but the structure of the story is definitely WSB, and I think it would make a great text to expand by using cut-ups (as many TL's stories would in fact).

Good eye. From the "Triangulating the Daemon" interview in Esoterra (http://www.ligotti.net/integramod/kb.php?mode=article&k=2):

I've always been a shameless imitator of other writers' styles, and the "Teatro Grottesco" stories are my Bernhard stories. In fact, I'm doing Bernhard to some degree in this interview, just as "Drink to Me Only With Labyrinthine Eyes" is my Stanley Elkin story; "The Nightmare Network" is my William S. Burroughs story; "The Medusa" is my E.M. Cioran story; "Mrs. Rinaldi's Angel" and several others are my Bruno Shulz stories; and most of the stories in the first two sections of Songs of a Dead Dreamer are my Vladimir Nabokov stories.

Oh, and by the way, the pseudonym I use (ElHI) is strongly WSB-related. Anyone guess in what way?

I'm ashamed to say that I've never read WSB, but I'd love to know where to begin...
 
Hey Doc...

I think the best way to start Burroughs is reading his self biographical
novels:
Junky, The yage letters and Queer.
I can only comment about the first two,
They are very readable and great memories of addiction...

Specially "Junky"..It relates WSB beggining of his addiction, and what he did to get his morphine, cocaine, marijuana...and the strange addicted fellows he meets...It´s a deliciously compulsive read.I couldn´t stop reading that one until its end...To me it is the second best novel about addiction.The first one is Thomas de Quincey´s "Confessions of an opium eater".

"The Yage letters" is his quest in South America for a Drug called Yage, which he mentions at the end of Junky
It is composed by letters he and Allen Ginsberg shared in the search for the drug
I have mixed feelings about that one.WSB letters looks like a man much more intersted in cheap sex with poor 3rd world boys than the Yage itself...but Allen Ginsberg letters are great...and worth the read.

I confess I didn´t enjoy completely his "fantastic" novels.I tried with Naked Lunch.
WSB has a VERY powerful imaginery, and the book is best read as a collection of bizarre quasi-self biographical
short-histories.
I tried also with "cities of the red night" and again I loved the man´s imaginery but I guess I would get the context reading the three novels of the red night trilogy but they´re not avaible over here.

Also you can always try "Word virus", sort of a bulk of all of his carreer, including samples of most of his novels,
also, there are very insighful essays by William Burroughs himself and James Grauerholz (William´s partner) and the book even inculdes a sample cd with some readings by WSB.The first track "Twilight´s last gleamings" is very funny.
I bought mine (book and cd) for US$ 2 in an ebay auction!
 
I've only leafed through a few of Burroughs' books -- as opposed to actually reading them -- and have found that I'm mostly interested in his writings about writing. I mean his ideas regarding the creative process, the act of writing, the nature of language, and so on. For instance, I was mesmerized by his introduction to THE RETREAT DIARIES where he talked about his self-prescribed rules for paying attention to the visionary products of his own unconscious mind.

With his fiction, it's a different matter. I sort of enjoyed David Cronenberg's cinematic adaptation of NAKED LUNCH but have never been interested to read the novel, or any of his others, for that matter. I don't know why this should be so, since I've really enjoyed reading about Burroughs. This is a phenomenon I've encountered with a few other authors over the years. It simply happens that with some of them, I find accounts of their lives, writings, and ideas to be intensely interesting, but at the same time I feel absolutely no desire to read their actual work. With Burroughs it's a bit different, though; given that Tom is so powerfully influenced by him, I'll probably make a more concerted effort to read him some day.

ElHI -- Regarding your comment that "The Nightmare Network" and some of Tom's other stories would be great to expand via Burroughs' cut-up technique, you might find it interesting to know (if you don't already) that Tom really didn't enjoy that aspect of Burroughs' work. Offhand I can't remember the exact interview where the topic came up -- was it Neddal's FANTASTIC METROPOLIS interview? That sounds halfway likely -- but when he was asked whether he had ever used or considered using the cut-up approach, he answered, "No, and I wish Burroughs hadn't either."
 
Im totally with you, Matt. I find it very interesting to read about Burroughs and about his approach to writing books. I especially liked the fact that he used the cut-up technique because it was the only way to get out of control of those insect-like aliens ( that aspect of Burrougs' universe is very Ligottian).
"Naked Lunch" by Cronenberg is very impressive. I don't know if it should be regarded as a cinematic adaptation, considering the fact that even Cronenberg stated it was much more about Burroughs' life and about the process through which the book has been written.
When I sat down to read the book it surprised me in a rather negative way. The style was very original and impressive but the gruesome, violent and sexual images didn't work for me.
 
Severini,

You've got it quick! And I thought that it was smart-ass and pretty obscure...:oops:

For those unfamiliar with WSB, El Hombre Invisible was the nickname given to him by "the boys" when he was living in Tanger. It is also the title of one of his biographies, written by Barry Miles.
 
To begin with WSB, I'd recommend Naked lunch (obviously) and Junky. I began with a French translation of The Soft Machine, so I still have a soft spot for his cut-up trilogy (The Soft Machine, The Ticket That Exploded, Nova Express). Well, in fact I still have to find a book by Burroughs that I would find just OK, and not very good, so I guess that any book would be a great introduction...

I'm a bit surprised that Ligotti doesn't like cut-ups. He said in an interview that repetition was one of the ingredients of a good writer, and cut-up is kind of the ultimate repetition of words, introducing a bit of random in it that can work great.

And I have to agree also with the comments on David Cronenberg's Naked Lunch: a truly fascinating movie (and a great score by Howard Shore). And probably the film that made me realise that Cronenberg was a great film-maker, and not only a great horror-film-maker.
 
The Soft Machine was pretty hard for me to read (especially since it was my first intro to WSB), but I loved the cut up style and Burrough's visceral, caustic writing style. Anybody who hasn't checked him out, definitely should.
 
I haven't read any books by Burroughs, but I have listened to the 3 hour abridged audio book JUNKY read by Burroughs. It is one of the better audio books that I have listened to. He has a very distinctive voice. He also did a great job of acting in the movie DRUGSTORE COWBOY. He plays a junky priest. It's a great flick.

I like to listen to authors read their own works. Some of my favorites are: James Dickey reading from DELIVERANCE, T.S. Eliot reading his poetry, and my favorite, Anthony Burgess reading from A CLOCKWORK ORANGE.
 
I agree, WSB has one of the most distinctive voice I've ever heard. I'm not too much into audio books, but Burroughs reading his own books really adds to the power of the words. "Word is a virus" as he used to say...

As for his Junky Priest (or is it Priest Junky?) in Drugstore Cowboy, it is indeed great! I also have somewhere on tape an animated movie and I think it is titled "The Priest They Called Him" with Burroughs reading a Christmas story of his own... I'll have to dig for it and watch it again before saying more nonsense.
 
I have seen some interesting VHS tapes on Burroughs on eBay. (The descriptions below were taken from eBay).

COMMISSIONER OF SEWERS is an in-depth portrayal of cult icon William S. Burroughs, featuring Burroughs himself in conversation on his beliefs on language as a weapon, his theory of the world, the function of dreams, travel in time and space, mummification, and the socioeconomic system. Also included is footage from some of his public readings, film appearances, and shots of his paintings.

THE JUNKY'S CHRISTMAS. Burroughs takes down a book and reads us the story of Danny the Carwiper, who spends Christmas Day trying to score a fix, but finds the Christmas spirit instead.

WILLIAM BURROUGHS THREE FILMS 1950s - 1960s

Of course, my library doesn't have any of these videos. I am considering staging a coup to take over the audio/visual department. "During my reign, instead of purchasing that 15th copy of the newest Adam Sandler movie, I will buy something of merit!" (I can hear the hissing and booing of the masses).

ElHI,
I think you are right about the "Priest Junky." First and foremost, you are a junky, everything else is just an adjective.
 
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THE JUNKY'S CHRISTMAS. Burroughs takes down a book and reads us the story of Danny the Carwiper, who spends Christmas Day trying to score a fix, but finds the Christmas spirit instead.

That's the animated "Christmas" short film I was referring to! I still haven't checked in my dusty VHS collection if I still have it on tape (fingers crossed!)
 
my 2 cents... i would start with his red night trilogy. all his primary concerns expressed at the peak of his ability, in my opinion. although, probably not my favourite writings from him.
 
my 2 cents... i would start with his red night trilogy. all his primary concerns expressed at the peak of his ability, in my opinion. although, probably not my favourite writings from him.

Of the three, The Western Lands is the most interesting to me. I think the trilogy can be read in any order. My primary focus in reading fiction is often on prose style. I found the prose of Cities of the Red Night and what little I've read of The Place of Dead Roads to be flatter than Burroughs at his best, though still enjoyable reading. Naked Lunch is my favorite but the Red Night trilogy is less experimental and might be a better introduction to Burroughs, especially for those who haven't read much other experimental literature. Exterminator! (that's with the "!"; there is also a Burroughs/Gysin collaboration with the same title but without the "!", which I haven't read) also might make a good introduction.
 
"I'd recommend Naked lunch (obviously) and Junky" Funny you would say that. Those are the only 2 WSB books I've read. I enjoyed them both (Though NL took me 3 tries). I may have to give him another try, but from what I understand about the cut-up technique, I don't think it would appeal to me. CHG
 
As a longtime Burroughs reader, I often recommend; Literary Outlaw.

I myself often read a well recommended biography of an author before digging into their work. I feel it gives me context to understand their point of view and will often give me clues as to what the pivotal periods of their life/work were.
 
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