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Re: The Ending of True Detective
Terrific , scholarly article which highlights Ligotti's pessimism and the disappointing resolution of TD:
Is Survival Always the Best Option? Pessimism, Anti-Natalism and Bloodchildren And that's just a tidbit. | |||||||||||
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I've heard that Joanna Russ's We Who Are About To... is very good. I wonder if there has been any talk about this novel in antinatalist circles (other than this article). | |||||||||||
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The essay linked by Malone is interesting, especially the part commenting the end
So True Detective's ending is even more pessimistic than the pessimists when it shows Cohle babbling "Light is winning over darkness". Cohle hasn't opened his eyes to the light, he closes his eyes to the darkness because he can no longer stand it. The essay suffers from lack of a summary though...There are lots of good points but in the end I cannot remember any of them (save for the ending's comments). | |||||||||||
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Rust's philosophical conversion was disappointing, but I had less of a problem with that than the big mystery having a really simple underdeveloped stock 'evil hick' from a hundred horror films as the big bad. I thought True Detective S1 was going somewhere more interesting than where it was, both philosophically and plot-wise.
I still look back on it with mostly fond memories of the first five episodes. It didn't tie together in to the classic it could have been (Hannibal accomplished this very well), but I overall had a good time with it due to the stellar production and performances. S2 had neither of those, sadly. |
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I wasn't a fan of the ending either. It was like a premature ejaculation, for all the reasons mentioned above.
I refuse to watch the second season. |
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All I remember abut Season 2 was Caitlin R. Kiernan yelling abuse at people on social media for being unimpressed with that dialogue and the stock noir storyline. Good times.
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Like many, I disliked the ending. However, it didn't ruin the show as a whole. I thought Mathew McConaughey played a very convincing pessimist. Everything from his indifference towards sexuality to his choice to drive the same old pickup truck felt authentic. Besides, the ending didn't negate the quality of scenes such as the following:
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"In a less scientific age, he would have been a devil-worshipper, a partaker in the abominations of the Black Mass; or would have given himself to the study and practice of sorcery. His was a religious soul that had failed to find good in the scheme of things; and lacking it, was impelled to make of evil itself an object of secret reverence."
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It should have ended with Rust's death after he blew the maniac's head off. But, alas, mass audiences want a different kind of closure. Can you blame the artist for working in such a medium?
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I wasn't sure if they would actually kill off Cohle, but when it was clear that he was going to survive I knew the ending was going to be insipidly optimistic.
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There were a couple interviews where Nic Pizzolato said that he didn't feel like discussing Cohle yet (in light of his Ligottian "influences") because we had to wait and see the last scene of the series to really grasp the totality of his character; and that this last scene was the first thing he wrote, and wrote everything else knowing he had to get there.
And that ending scene was really beautiful and brought tears to my eyes, and made me slightly melancholic whenever I thought of it for weeks afterward. Or at least it did way back when I first read it in Alan Moore's Top 10 comic. Yeah, light vs dark is the oldest theme in the history of narrative, but much like the Ligotti quotes, Nic lifted Moore's words almost verbatim. Whatever power that ending might've had to me was replaced with "seriously?". Like if I wrote a symphony and for the choral ending of the 4th movement I just threw in the "na na na na" coda from Hey Jude (with one or two na's changed for ni's or ne's, of course.) That's my big problem with the ending. Otherwise, I think the first four episodes are pretty much flawless. If it was up to me I'd edit episode five to be shorter and make that the ending of the series somehow. | |||||||||||
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