'True Detective' Season 2 News: HBO Crime Drama Heading To The Big Screen?

Yes, I'll never forget Millennium. Better than The X-Files (which I still enjoy) in every regard, including theme tune.

MILLENNIUM Title Theme by Mark Snow - YouTube

As I said in another thread, Ligotti would have been a much better fit writing for that show than X-Files, which was safer and more accessible. Millennium was the darker and deeper show, even if it never really seemed to know what it was. Each season was a different show.

Am excited for The X-Files' revival purely because Darin Morgan is back on board.

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This has been a good reminder that I really need to check out Hannibal. Hell, a friend even sent me season 1 on DVD, saying it was right up my alley. Not sure why I haven't gotten around to watching it yet... one of these days. I do enjoy the Thomas Harris novels as well (and admire the fact that he's in no way prolific: unusual for a bestselling author)... even loved Hannibal Rising, which probably puts me in a minority.

The funniest thing about Thomas Harris is that his website hasn't updated since 2007. There's literally NOTHING on there about the Hannibal TV show even. The most recent news update is for the release of the paperback version of Hannibal Rising!

Thomas Harris makes Thomas Ligotti look like a publicity junkie. He hasn't given an interview since 1976, well before he was even famous.

[Coa]

I would watch anything with Mads Mikkelsen.

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Quote Originally Posted by Coa

I would watch anything with Mads Mikkelsen.

Coming from Mikkelsen's native Denmark and thus having been exposed to a lot of the movies he's in over the years, I can safely say that, frankly, no, you wouldn't.

His Hannibal performance broke my heart in the latest finale. He managed to be an imposing figure of dread whilst also on some level gaining my sympathy. Great acting.

I hope Season 3, as it presumably adapts Red Dragon, features some of the delightful songs from Manhunter. Gorgeous film, even if certain elements are very 80s MTV.

1. Strong As I Am - Manhunter (1986) | The Prime Movers - YouTube

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Personally, I was Thomas Harris-ed out a long time ago. After Red Dragon, so many movies and dumb TV shows 'borrowed' from Harris it was exhausting. (Perhaps it was fitting since Red Dragon borrowed heavily from Colin Wilson's "The Glass Cage")
Truly, I prefer True Detective Season 1.
I'll probably skip the new season, though. I think Nick decided on a smart strategy, removing all weird elements from the new one or (possibly) just minimizing them. He knows his greatest competition is his own creation, season one. He also seems to be smart enough to know you can't capture lightning in a bottle twice. Now if (when) critics complain about TD 2 he can say, "Hey, this is completely different, you idiots, you can't compare them, it's Apples and Oranges!"
We'll see how it works out for ya, Nick.

The serial killer has replaced the symbol of the Werewolf in our collective mythology/culture. Explicit and realistic sadism/brutality replaces atmospheric and symbolic fantasy at its darkest. Some would see it as another example of cultural impoverishment. The culture we presumably share, the glue that helps hold us all together, is a mythology of bad movies, sickly pop music, video games, comic books and dimwit celebrities. Nothing wrong with comic books or video games in themselves--but the trade-off was grim in general. Laugh, youngsters, but remember the last generation of Old Ones in Lovecraft's At the Mountains of Madness who couldn't tell how far their art and culture had decayed and thought the new stuff superior...As G. says Nothing stands still, evolution or devolution calls...

I think if you look at documentation from absolutely every era of history, they all thought they were in in age of moral or artistic decline (Lovecraft felt the same about his era, so he's not a great example). It's quite funny, actually. My view is certainly a minority (lone?) one on this forum, but I still overall would say that our culture is only worse in some ways whilst being better in substantially more ways (I wouldn't much fancy being around during the Victorian era, as it was nigh-on inhospitable if you weren't rich), and even though existence is quite hellish, we're actually in one of the least hellish periods of history to be alive in (rather than a comfort this is actually horrifying because there is still an unfathomable amount of suffering).

I also don't believe the fascination with murderers in horror fiction is anything particularly new. Poe was relishing in it with masterworks such as The Tell-Tale Heart, The Cask of Amontillado or The Black Cat, which contain the same psychological spirit of the Lecter tales. The Hannibal show especially screams Poe to me.

Bar a few exceptions (The Twilight Zone has aged extraordinarily well), 1950s TV was insanely terrible filler between commercials, whereas now I have Season 3 of Hannibal, Season 2 of Better Call Saul, and even a Twin Peaks revival to look forward to. I firmly believe we're in the golden age of US television when it comes to the quantity of decent shows out there, even if most of these are niche whilst the majority of TV is still as awful as ever. I'm always discovering decent distractions on Netflix, and the occasional artistic gem. The Wire and Breaking Bad wouldn't have been as good if made in earlier decades, as the level of visual artistry hadn't matched cinema yet, and they would have suffered from compromise.

I think people jumped the gun in declaring True Detective on par with those shows, as whilst it's good its writing didn't really match the superlative production/performances in a way that true modern classics such as Deadwood, The Sopranos, Six Feet Under, etc all did. Still, I am looking forward to the second season, even if I'm skeptical I'll enjoy it as much without the director of last year's run, who was actually responsible for the weird fiction-esque atmosphere more than the lip service to Chambers was.

[Coa]

Quote Originally Posted by MadsPLP

Quote Originally Posted by Coa I would watch anything with Mads Mikkelsen. Coming from Mikkelsen's native Denmark and thus having been exposed to a lot of the movies he's in over the years, I can safely say that, frankly, no, you wouldn't.

Well, I watched everything with him expect some early films from second half of the 90's and those awful Musketeers and Titans - Hollywood cash-ins. Hes work with Anders Thomas Jensen and Refn is classic. And I'm pretty sure I've seen him in Klovn, which is like best comedy series in this century, IMO. Its hard to believe he never worked with LVT.

[MadsPLP]

Quote Originally Posted by Coa

Quote Originally Posted by MadsPLP Quote Originally Posted by Coa I would watch anything with Mads Mikkelsen. Coming from Mikkelsen's native Denmark and thus having been exposed to a lot of the movies he's in over the years, I can safely say that, frankly, no, you wouldn't. Well, I watched everything with him expect some early films from second half of the 90's and those awful Musketeers and Titans - Hollywood cash-ins. Hes work with Anders Thomas Jensen and Refn is classic. And I'm pretty sure I've seen him in Klovn, which is like best comedy series in this century, IMO. Its hard to believe he never worked with LVT.

I'm quite impressed!

Klovn is brilliant; a second movie will be out quite soon. He was in the episode about the soccer team.

I hated The Hunt, which epitomised just how standardised Danish cinema has been in recent years, and Shake it all About was rather clichéd in my opinion. Just as I think Anders Thomas Jensen writes a bit too many script making use of the same tricks over and over again. But it's possible that I'm biased viewing this from the inside - what is boring in Danish cinema for a Dane might not be noticed when viewed from the outside, the success of Danish tv series abroad in recent years being one example.