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Is Ligotti's feminism intersectional enough for 2017 relevance?
An issue that's been preoccupying me for some time. We know that Ligotti is at least conversant with the discourses surrounding complex systems of oppression but there are not many statements by him where he talks about being agitated by other people's feminism not being intersectional enough. It would be nice to know he is at least occasionally irked or nettled by the lack of a genre-wide intersectional awareness.
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Re: Is Ligotti's feminism intersectional enough for 2017 relevance?
Can't have patriarchial systems of oppression if there's nobody alive to oppress anything.
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Re: Is Ligotti's feminism intersectional enough for 2017 relevance?
Some relevant stories:
"Purity" "The Bungalow House" "Miss Plarr" | |||||||||||
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Re: Is Ligotti's feminism intersectional enough for 2017 relevance?
Now that you mention "Purity", Justin, I suppose Candy's addiction to mayonaise-drenched weiners is symbolic of the male dominance over a woman's body.
Not too sure about "The Bungalow House", but it's been some time since I've read that one. |
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Re: Is Ligotti's feminism intersectional enough for 2017 relevance?
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Re: Is Ligotti's feminism intersectional enough for 2017 relevance?
From My Work Is Not Yet Done:
To those who would, more in anger than in sorrow, instantly declare this problematic, I wish to point out that Ligotti's reference to "social reality" would seem to raise this passage from problematicity to critique. However, the wording here--"I wish them well in their transactions with social reality"--would seem to ironize this critical awareness at the expense of the critiquer. And since irony is, if not inherently reactionary, at least suspect (in that righteous indignation requires unself-aware univocity of cognizance), this passage is problematic after all. Continuing the passage: Now that is intersectional as all get-out! Perhaps Haraway would find it old hat, but leaving aside Harawayan modalities (if I may be pardoned for further marginalizing the marginal), Ligotti here is, I contend, beyond 2017 in his awareness of intersectionality. The Sherry-thing... some kind of thing inhabiting the body of an attractive woman... an alien... a creature. If only that didn't sound so misogynistic! But relax: it turns out that the swinish darkness inhabits all beings. Question for intersectional theorists: Given that the swinish darkness inhabits all beings, how is this swinish darkness inflected in socially-constructed identities of the oppressed? And isn't whiteness uniquely implicated in darkness? (The chromaticity of this image becomes problematic.) | |||||||||||
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Re: Is Ligotti's feminism intersectional enough for 2017 relevance?
I see the potential for a great article in a leading humanities journal. Othering, of course, would need to be addressed.
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Re: Is Ligotti's feminism intersectional enough for 2017 relevance?
All I want is to see the churning, all-pervading darkness PUNCHING UP a little more often. Is that really too much to ask?
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Re: Is Ligotti's feminism intersectional enough for 2017 relevance?
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My gallery...
http://robertadamgilmour.blogspot.com |
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Re: Is Ligotti's feminism intersectional enough for 2017 relevance?
How did I miss this thread?
Intersectionality is great and why third-wave feminism is really pretty cool. I have no idea what Ligotti's views on intersectionality are. I know he's a socialist, but not all are intersectional. I think that despite the general lack of what could be considered 'diverse representation', his work's picture of antinatalism as a form of compassion is compatible with intersectionality. There are a lot of antinatalist feminists as it's actually a good way of removing reactionary society's view of women as baby factories. |
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